Live Thread & Breaking News- Libya and Middle East

Various | 21 February 2011

[Allegra]

Are they gonna go Tribal ?

I sure hpoe not.

I'm willing to bet it's the Iran-funded Shia stirring it up.

[mewzilla]

More leaked cables. Talks about supplying the Khamis Brigade.

Viewing cable 09TRIPOLI960, SAIF AL-ISLAM'S STAFF REACHES OUT ON POL-MIL ISSUES

If the info's accurate....wow.

[mewzilla]

From my above link...

While xxxxxxxxxxxx did not show interest in the C-130 LOAs, he seemed surprised by the number of military exchange and training opportunities on offer and was particularly shocked that most of them had gone unanswered. "Who did you make these offers to?" he asked. He took particular interest in an offer made for Khamis to travel around the United States to tour U.S. military installations and pledged to follow-up directly with Khamis on that program.

Whoa.

[mewzilla]

"We have a long way to go," retorted xxxxxxxxxxxx. He stated that if the UAE could not outfit the Tiger vehicles with American engines, then the Libyans would purchase engines from Mercedes-Benz. "But we want American engines," he added. DATT extended the possibility that Libyan military procurement provide a Letter of Request to purchase the engines via the Foreign Military Sales process, which xxxxxxxxxxxx said he would discuss with the appropriate officials.

Again, if the info's accurate, wonder who makes the American engines they wanted?

[SE Mom]

See 1022 and 1023 for more info on Khamis Brigade- YIKES

[SE Mom]

Ok- so if I’m reading this right, OUR military was in the process of assisting and/or training Gaddafi’s military.

And this was AFTER The One became president- cable created in 2009...

Whoa...

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

LOL....so much for the warm California Coast.

[Uncle Ike]

” For now I’ll rejoice in the human spirit “

Yeah, I know that I’m assuming, however reluctantly and unhappily, the role of “Pig in Church”, here —

But, when virtually all of the ‘information’ coming out seems designed and tailored to reinforce what I *want* to believe, I need to step back, take a breath, and wonder why...

I may very well be wrong - heck, I fervently *HOPE* I’m wrong — but I just can’t, and won’t, join in the emotional stampede....

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

I saw a thread where it appeared that al-Sadr had returned from Iran recently!

[mewzilla]

Another cable, mentions Khamis and the Russians. I can't get the link to work for some reason, so I'll just post some of the most inteesting (to me, anyway) bits...

4. (S/NF) In the late 1990s, Libya and Russia established a joint military cooperation council to manage training and equipment sales. Russia's senior representative on the council, noted Russian nuclear physicist and author Evgeny Abramyan, has visited Libya on half a dozen occasions during the past 10 years to discuss ongoing military cooperation. Top Libyan military officials, including two of Libyan leader Muammar Qadhafi's sons - Muatassim and Khamis - have studied in Moscow on GOR-financed MOD educational exchanges. (DAO comment: Khamis al-Qadhafi spent 14 months in a combined Russian staff college course especially designed for him and obtained a PhD in military sciences in 2007. DAO's contacts have told us that the Russian DAO's office expects Putin's visit soon, and that the Russians have threatened to cut off military spare parts sales to Libya if a major new contract is not signed during Putin's visit. End comment.) Stressing that defense cooperation occurs largely outside the purview of Russia's Embassy in Tripoli, Martinov characterized Libya-Russia defense cooperation as good and said the Libyans appeared "well pleased" with Russian military equipment. Former Congressman Weldon's Rosoboroneksport contact said that in addition to an expected civilian nuclear deal, conventional arms sales would be a prominent issue for discussions between Putin and Qadhafi. Possible sales of tactical and strategic airlift aircraft and armor, and overhaul of Libyan naval vessels were specifically mentioned.

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

It's looking like Syria may be the next hot spot. Iran has sent supplies (weapons?) and they are already testing the established security forces. There was an incident this morning.

[mewzilla]

I'm posting a link to your thread over here :)

Obama earmarked $400k for 2 Charities run by Col. Gadaffi's children.

[gleeaikin]

We now have another live thread call LIBYA LIVE THREAD which at this time has a little over 100 comments. Meanwhile here is the latest AOL Libya article:

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/25/chaos-engulfs-libya-as-crowds-chant-for-another-friday-exit/?ncid=webmail

[no-to-illegals]

and my guess is food will not work this time.

[GlockThe Vote]

Thanks.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Posted last night:

Iraqi Shiite cleric returns to Iraq from Iran [Moqtada al-Sadr]

He has been in Iran for most of the last three years.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

See link at #1036.

[no-to-illegals]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/charlesmoore/8348516/Libya-What-happens-after-we-stop-watching-these-revolutions-against-Col-Gaddafi.html ... What happens after we stop watching these revolutions against Col Gaddafi? ... comments interesting

[no-to-illegals]

I see God and Jesus waving the Star and Stripes.

[FARS]

Just as under Obama, our Generals and trainers are training Palestinian “special forces” (pretending to be riot police)to confront and fight against Israel.

ALSO check this out.

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2011/02/attack-details-on-lara-logan-personify.html

In case you missed this:

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2011/02/look-at-plague-oba-hussein-has.html