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Intel plans $5 bln Arizona chip plant by 2013
reuters.com ^ | 2/17/2011 | reuters.com

Posted on 02/18/2011 3:43:19 PM PST by mewykwistmas

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To: Cringing Negativism Network
For one. Across-the-board, 100% import tariff. On all imports. ALL IMPORTS. Without one single exception.

Yeah, you want to double the price of oil and every other manufacturing input that is imported into America. That'll really cause a manufacturing and export boom, won't it. LOL!

21 posted on 02/18/2011 4:22:22 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: mewykwistmas

FYI: Intel

Intel had plans for this expansion way before Obummer got involved. He’s just trying to take credit for it.
This is right out of the Clinton playbook. Get in with companies who have $$$.

GWB could have done the same thing however few of his advisors had an understanding of Silicon Valley and how it works. Andy Grove, Craig Barrett and Paul Ortellni are all Republicans (Andy switched in ‘04 due to GWB refusing to talk to Intel)

The fab’s in Oregon are mostly development fabs (ie small scale). Intel debugs a process on a small fab and then moves it to the full production fabs. This costs less $$$ if a problem shows up or a vendor can’t deliver.

In spite of anything you may have heard, Intel has developed the highest technology process on the planet. They are not going to hand it China or Mexico for security reasons.

How do I know this...guess.


22 posted on 02/18/2011 4:24:42 PM PST by Zathras
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To: Toddsterpatriot

If combined with the elimination of all other taxation.

You bet it would.

But you still are misrepresenting what I said, aren’t you.


23 posted on 02/18/2011 4:27:28 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Palin / Trump 2012 - America First)
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To: Zathras
"In spite of anything you may have heard, Intel has developed the highest technology process on the planet. They are not going to hand it China or Mexico for security reasons.
How do I know this...guess."
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You're Chinese ;) ?
24 posted on 02/18/2011 4:28:11 PM PST by mewykwistmas ("If the Egyptians are hungry, let them eat ethanol")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
But you still are misrepresenting what I said, aren’t you.

Are you saying your idea wouldn't double the price of oil?

25 posted on 02/18/2011 4:29:52 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Only imported oil...

American oil: no tax.


26 posted on 02/18/2011 4:32:23 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Palin / Trump 2012 - America First)
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To: stubernx98
But, but Intel has a bunch of plants in Oregon why not expand those? Oh wait, Oregon voted in big tax increase - revenue dropped by 1/3.

Actually, that's not entirely the reason for this decision (although it could be a part of it). I lived in Oregon a while back and about 12 years ago (IIRC) Intel wanted to expand their plants there - but the government said they would rather not expand the manufacturing plants. They wanted to attract more white collar type employers. And Oregon has been in a recession ever since.

27 posted on 02/18/2011 4:38:43 PM PST by BruceS
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Are you saying your idea wouldn’t double the price of American oil?


28 posted on 02/18/2011 5:13:50 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: randog

Intel said in October it plans to spend $6 billion to $8 billion on high-tech manufacturing facilities in Arizona and Oregon NOT California.


Not China Either. Especially since I’ve been hearing stories that say China wants the R&D of a company before they will allow a new plant to be built in China now.


29 posted on 02/18/2011 5:19:16 PM PST by The Working Man
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To: decimon; Ernest_at_the_Beach; neverdem; Swordmaker; ShadowAce; Las Vegas Dave
will churn out next-generation 14-nanometer line-width transistors and microchip wafers of 300 millimeters
wowzo. Thanks mewykwistmas.


30 posted on 02/18/2011 5:25:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv
wowzo.

Yeah. They're at 32nm and the next step should be 22nm. 14nm is big. In a small way, that is.

Wonder if Intel is souring (scared crapless) on their overseas plants. Even Ireland is likely looking less good than before.

31 posted on 02/18/2011 5:44:24 PM PST by decimon
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Ten years of outsourcing (generally in the electronics area) makes the lower wages they’ll offer look quite attractive to the unemployed with expertise or experience.


32 posted on 02/18/2011 6:45:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: proxy_user
Does the manufacturing process require any employees, or can everything be done by machines?

Not only do semiconductor manufacturing plants require no employees, but the actually increase the number of unemployed in any are where they are built. They are often referred to as employment sinks.

33 posted on 02/18/2011 7:21:21 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Cringing Negativism Network said: "American oil: no tax."

A 100% import tariff? 100% of what? Oil is at about $85 per barrel. So let's tax the imported oil at 100% making it $170 per barrel.

Now suppose that you are very fortunate and hold American oil in the amount of 10% of present day consumption. And suppose that we presently are importing half of our oil.

What price will the people who own the other American oil amounting to 40% of our present usage charge for their oil? Why would they charge even a penny less than $185? Is there any reason that they wouldn't get that price?

What price would you then charge for the oil YOU have? Would you give it away at $85 per barrel to people who are just going to turn around and immediately sell it for $185?

Taxing imported oil would do nothing to increase production here because our socialist government doesn't want the production increased.

34 posted on 02/18/2011 7:46:44 PM PST by William Tell
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To: SunkenCiv

Most interesting, thanks!!


35 posted on 02/19/2011 2:28:44 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave ("Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Only imported oil...

American oil: no tax.

Are you saying your idea wouldn’t double the price of American oil?

36 posted on 02/19/2011 11:55:11 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: I see my hands

yes ina GOP state.

Not in California.


37 posted on 02/19/2011 10:10:37 PM PST by NoLibZone (Impeach Obama. Then try him for treason.)
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To: mewykwistmas

Are they Union jobs?


38 posted on 02/19/2011 10:21:31 PM PST by NoLibZone (Impeach Obama. Then try him for treason.)
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