Posted on 02/17/2011 5:17:18 AM PST by SJackson
BTTT
Same with the slaves of the Muslims.
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Islam=slavery, rape, dhimmitude & death.
The ROP can KMA
Black is black and grey is black too? In your case you have a sense that white is black. All to say, in these matters about “slavery”.
You need to get out and tour the intellectual landscape of Humanity more.
Jewish slaves, and even most chattel slaves in America, had good lives with many protections. US slave owners were prohibited by law from relations with their slaves. Such relationships, however, were not rare, but neither were they common, because they brought upon the cad a lot of social scorn. Yet in Muslim cultures, especially Arabic and African, such relationships with slaves are celebrated as a sign of manhood and power.
You can also look the caste system of India, or what happened to those captured by various tribes in North America. In Aztec and other Central and South American cultures — slaves were sacrificed, and even eaten in some times and places.
So you may have, in cases, been nicer to your slaves.
That makes it all good.
Personally, think she is lucky to be alive. Also think; she should never have been there.
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Wholeheartedly agree.
Not meaning to sound “Archie Bunkerish”, she acted a fool going into that mob dressed like she was.
You could probably even argue the fact that her being ‘detained’ earlier was a sort of ‘message’ that she should be careful where she was ‘hanging out’ as they could not grant her proper protection.
It is no different than me going to the “Million(???) Man March” in all my ‘whiteness’, mingle in the center of the crowd (no matter how peaceful they may be) wearing a TShirt with the Confederate Flag on it.
Some things common sense should not allow you to do, no matter what ‘point’ you are trying to make- -
Or how ‘correct’ you think you are.
Stealing is crime. Why do you rob?
One of Mohammad's slaves, (Zaynab, a Jewish woman taken prisoner) had her revenge upon him by poisoning him. The poison killed his companion, with Mohammad dying three years later still complaining of the lingering effects of the poison.
What?
Anyway, the glossing-over continues. Have you forgotten the sexual slavery in the Bible itself? It is condoned, regulated. The explanation is simple -- that was common in societies back then. But some revisionists don't want to admit that.
What a choice, slavery or death. How humane and righteous of the Jews to allow them the option of slavery! And if slaves of Jews rebelled, what was the punishment?
A billion wrongs do not make right. We who know better do wrong at the cost of clear consciences. If we join in the blaming of the victim for a clear wrong by the criminals, we open the way to rationalization and utilitarianism.
It is no more right to justify the assault of a woman for going to the wrong country than it is to justify robbing a drunk who fell asleep on the sidewalk. We know what the victims did wrong, but we must unequivocally condemn their aggressors.
Lying is wrong, but how else could a thief stay in business unless he lies to himself. Why do you lie?
Why are you playing stupid word games to distract from the fact that the Bible condones and regulates slavery?
Don't know, never came across an article about it. The Romans generally would put rebelling slaves to death. If the Romans were particularly annoyed, the slaves would be crucified (see Sparticus). Muslims dealt with slave revolts with similar harshness. A slave prone to rebellion has little market value, so there's no point keeping him alive.
Muslim slave traders taking black slaves for the Islamic market would prefer female slaves. The male slaves would frequently be castrated so they could serve as eunuchs for the harems. Most of the castrated men would die from the procedure. A large percentage would then die from being marched across the Sahara to the slave markets.
Saudi Arabia didn't abolish slavery until 1962, less than 50 years ago. Mauritania waited until 1981. There are Muslim countries, like Sudan, where slave trading still happens.
The problem with Islamic slavery is that Mohammad is considered the model of perfect conduct (says so right in the Quran), and Mo was a slave owner, slave trader, and enslaver. So any criticism of the institution of slavery insults Mo himself.
What is slavery in your most educated view?
Involuntary servitude. I know that throughout history, including Jewish tradition, term slaves at their time of freedom would agree to permanent slavery rather than have to go to look for a job. That isn’t quite slavery since it’s voluntary.
I don't know either, that's why I asked. All I know is that a Christian is commanded to return a rebellious (escaped) slave to his owner.
Saudi Arabia didn't abolish slavery until 1962, less than 50 years ago. Mauritania waited until 1981. There are Muslim countries, like Sudan, where slave trading still happens.
That was kind of my point. Slavery existed as a respected institution throughout history, especially in that area, which is why none of the Abrahamic religions condemn it. However, most of the world has grown up, realized that slavery is not a good thing. Islam is the only one of those religions that hasn't grown up, where slavery isn't almost universally condemned.
We've even gone beyond eliminating slavery, condemning indentured servitude. We still see it among farmers basically holding illegal Latino immigrants in indentured servitude, and with sweat shops full of orientals, but that's illegal and punished. It's a common, open practice in most Muslim countries.
They need to grow up or be eliminated.
What do you call a 24 year old just graduated college with $60K or more in debt that can’t be extinguished in bankruptcy?
Somebody who voluntarily took on debt in a free society, essentially in a speculative investment bet that the college education would create more in returns than the debt incurred in obtaining it.
Keep going down this road and you're going to start sounding like Karl Marx's "wage slaves" concept.
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