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Five Reasons Why You're Not Getting Hired (Even if you have the experience)
Business Insider ^ | 02/11/2011 | Anne Berkovitch

Posted on 02/11/2011 7:39:33 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: sauropod

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61 posted on 02/11/2011 9:36:45 AM PST by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Ah, but that’s what Indians and illegal aliens are for. Isn’t globalism great?


62 posted on 02/11/2011 9:36:52 AM PST by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: SeekAndFind

6. You blog for the “business insider” and have no real talent.


63 posted on 02/11/2011 9:39:42 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Mr. Jeeves
The days of sitting in the corner cubicle as an Accounting Supervisor or Senior Software Engineer until age 65 are long gone

I'd agree with that, to a point.

In "big" corporate America, you're absolutely right. The last Fortune-500 company I worked at, has replaced most of its IT staff with H1B workers and outsourced consultants. They keep (or try to keep) a skeleton crew of full-time (American) workers to retain and transfer the knowledge base.

Other Depts in the company were trying the same tactic, to varying degrees.

How's that working out for them? Well, they're still in business. When I was there, they had 6B in revenue yearly, with a "planned target" of 9B, over the next five years. Now, more than five years later, they're at around 5 Billion, I think. I've not looked at a balance sheet for them in a long time(I'm no longer a stockholder), but their stock price is off considerably from when I was there. (20% or so, last time I bothered to look).

Anyway, that's BIG corporate America. Here in the weeds, in small business (where I am now), I'm fairly certain that my employer would be perfectly happy if I did exactly what I'm doing right now, to the same level of competence, and happily accepting my 2-3% COLA raises each year ... Until I'm 100, or the company folds, whichever comes first.

Do I want that? I dunno, trying to decide on it right now.

Anyway, my point is that work for older people is out there, you just need to look for it a little harder. I do a little hiring, and I typically prefer people with more experience. Younger people tend to be more aggressive in working IT problems (actually, having that issue right this minute with a new hire that was forced on me).

Aggressive is OK, except when you're dealing with things that have a company-wide impact. THEN (keeping in mind that most IT systems have a significant impact) ....then, I prefer someone with more experience who isn't afraid to step back and say "Let's think about this for a bit and get it right the first time." I'll take that attitude, every single time.

/rant off. thanks for listening

64 posted on 02/11/2011 9:40:59 AM PST by wbill
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To: US Navy Vet

“Female” is also a protected class.


65 posted on 02/11/2011 9:56:34 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: mylife

I am thinking that the middle aged white guys ought to form their own companies together, and be able to get customers because they can get the job done well and competitively.


66 posted on 02/11/2011 9:58:16 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: wbill

I know in my and my wife’s professions we are having a terrible time finding good candidates so we have positions opened for months at a time. Of course there have been the stacks and stacks of resumes from the MBA types with no experience other than thinking “manager” is a profession, but there have been very few qualified candidates.


67 posted on 02/11/2011 10:31:01 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
So we hire younger workers that will screw you over and be on disability for longer? Also I think younger workers are more inclined to screw the perceived fat cats. Most of us older guys still have some ethics.
68 posted on 02/11/2011 10:34:33 AM PST by smithandwesson76subgun (full auto fun)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
I don’t care how desperate I get...God forbid...I am NOT opening a social networking account on Facebook/Twitter/MtSpace. Never gonna happen.

Thank God, someone besides me feels this way. I'll panhandle on the street first.

69 posted on 02/11/2011 10:44:32 AM PST by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
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To: CodeToad
Yep, I suppose it depends completely on the profession.

In the case that I talked about, 5 years ago they were happy with hiring HS grads with "some" phone and people skills (read, show up on time and don't curse at customers).

The tight job market has bumped the bar (currently) up to MBA's or an equivalent. I'm sure it will correct back down again as job prospects improve; working the phones is a lousy job. Better than no job at all....but not very lucrative, or fun.

We recently went through the motions of hiring an entry level IT guy - everyone knew who was going to get the job, but we still needed to look at a few resumes and talk to a few people "for purposes of comparison". Whatever, top mgmt already had their guy tabbed, but I digress.... It still never ceases to amaze me the low standard that's set by entry level, or low-experience employees. Resumes that are barely literate, poor phone skills (don't take a phone interview from a sports bar!), poor interview skills (show up on time, wear a clean shirt, at least!).

I see an awful lot of people here on FR complaining about a lack of positions. From my own experience, I just need to wonder how much is talk, and how much is real. Good people are *hard* to find, always.

70 posted on 02/11/2011 11:28:53 AM PST by wbill
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To: wbill

I totally agree with you. I have been surprised by the lack of interest in any professional presentation by candidates. I actually had a guy show up in shorts and a camp shirt and say, I kid you not, “Sorry I’m late dood but this bitching bar downtown just opened and I gotta get back there. They got smoking sweet chicks and I think I can bag one.” The job was for a $100k+ hardware engineer. I hope he got the “chick” ‘cause he didn’t get the job.


71 posted on 02/11/2011 12:12:29 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Even though the economy is improving and there are increased job opening

The author of this is clearly a graduate of the Tokyo Rose school of propaganda.

72 posted on 02/11/2011 12:17:18 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: CodeToad
Yep. And you're the bad guy for not giving a clown like that a chance. :-)

I'm sure that we could swap plenty of horror stories.

73 posted on 02/11/2011 12:23:00 PM PST by wbill
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To: Mr. Jeeves
That's all corporate greed babble...

Fact is the new American work place is all about having a never ending line of ignorant young people, the employers can pull around by the nose as they demand full time work at part time pay....It's all about phony unobtainable commissions, and cheap prizes in lieu of deserved raises, as those left in the work places watch their actual salaries, benefits and hours get slashed and reduced, while the employers expects more work for less pay.

Another fact is employers now see ALL employees as a liability they are required to pay. They opt for younger ones who don't demand a livable wage, where medical benefits are not yet a big concern...

Today's American workplace, for the most part is a punitive greed pit where the employer basically wants people that will work for little or nothing.

74 posted on 02/11/2011 12:31:40 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SeekAndFind

“And the government has the gall to make you work till you’re 66 today for you to get your Social Security !! “

Same should apply for pensions of all elected officials including the president.


75 posted on 02/11/2011 12:41:52 PM PST by Always Independent
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To: packrat35
Thank God, someone besides me feels this way. I'll panhandle on the street first.

Call me close-minded. Call me a curmudgeon. Call me an old fart. All of which would be false. Because I don't feel my age or think my age and I work in IT for a Fortune 100 company. I listen to Alter Bridge for cryin' out loud.

But...I have little regard for anyone I hear saying, "You should see my Facebook page." Or, "My Facebook account got hacked." Or even, "I can't believe I got ripped of on Craig's List."

Morons. All of them.

76 posted on 02/11/2011 5:47:48 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Tyrants flourish only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace.)
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