Posted on 02/07/2011 9:46:47 AM PST by kbennkc
“We had to swallow Bush to get Reagan.”????
Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Nixon/Ford, Carter, Reagan.
Reagan/Bush. Reagan was forced by what today would be called RINOs to accept Bush on his ticket.
That same coalition is needed to defeat Obama in 2012.
During the primaries; fight as hard as we can for winning conservative candidates.
During the general, support the GOP candidate. 75-80% of something is better than nothing.
Imagine a Congress that supports our agenda 80% of the time...that’s as close to heaven as any conservative will get in America.
I have a long record of excoriating Mitt Romney. I think he's bad news, and that he's damaging to the cause of conservatism. Huckabee isn't exactly on my hit parade, either.
But realistically speaking, I have the feeling that you are essentially correct. Except that instead of Romney/Huck or Huck/Romney, I see Romney/DeMint or Huckabee/someone else. Either way, though, I agree that it'll be Romney or Huckabee.
Note: Im not saying this is my preference, only that I think this is what the ticket will be. I'm saying in advance that I will not vote for a Romney or Huckabee ticket. But what I want ≠ what will happen.
The difference between Reagan and Romney (or Huckabee) is that Reagan was conservative. He set the agenda, which was conservative.
That same coalition is needed to defeat Obama in 2012.
If the GOP candidate in the general is Mitt Romney or Huckabee, I will not be voting for either one, and know that many, many conservatives won't, either.
Mitt Romney holds too many of the same positions as Obama. Romney's love for gun control, abortion, and the idea that government can and should solve society's ills come directly to mind. Romney's inability to tell the truth for more than 5 consecutive minutes comes to mind as well.
There is nothing magical about that R next to the candidate's name. It doesn't make them more acceptable when they hold the same positions as the guy with the D next to his. This isn't a football game, where we have favorites based on emotions, geography or tradition. In politics, the candidate needs to do more than just show up in the right uniform. They need to actually play for the team.
My comparison wasn’t to Romney or Hucakbee and Reagan, but to those two and Bush.
Currently, no candidate exists that is Reaganesque. We’ll simply be choosing the best out of a thin field at present.
If you stay home, along with many conservatives you’ll simply be re-electing Obama. That kind of political immaturity is something he and his controllers are hoping for.
Romney, as you have described him, sounds much like George HW Bush. Savvy compromise is the path to victory. That’s how we got Reagan.
The rest of your comments are ignorance posing as sagacity. You don’t know what you’re talking about and that kind of poor judgment is what keeps us out of power.
I don’t buy it that we’d be better off now with McCain. I can’t see anything different he would have done, including Egypt and the Middle East, than what Obama has.
You sound like a reasonable person. Check here:
http://www.conservative.org/ratings/ratingsarchive/2009/Senate%20Ratings.htm#AZ
and here:
http://www.conservative.org/ratings/ratingsarchive/2007/2007senate.htm#IL
Demonstrably false:
compared to:
Real Flaming Progressives aka Illinois Democrats
There are, I believe, certain 5th columnists working to get conservatives to not vote. Some FReepers are doing this out of alleged "principle". The results are the same - An Obama victory and further erosion of our rights, liberties and country.
Do you really think the military can take another 4 years of Obama & Co. feminizing them to death?
Here's the alleged worst Republicans: The RINO Sisters
If Mitt Romney is on the ticket or ANY of his
pet lying toadies, like Sen Brown,
every single REAL conservative will
WORK AGAINST THE ticket.
"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"
"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"
"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"
Mitt Romney: "I'm not running as the Republican view or a continuation of Republican values.
That's not what brings me to the race.
(Romney Video, accessed 9/19/07)
"We don't intend to turn the Republican Party
over to the traitors in the battle just ended.
We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged
to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support.
Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates
wouldnt make any sense at all.""
-- President Ronald Reagan
Palin put herself in a precarious political position when she endorsed the manchurian agent of the left... she did it out of loyalty to him... and he stabs her in the back with a pledge NOT to back her if she decides to run... he has no loyalty except to himself... he turned his back on many brothers in green... not so sure he didn't leave some of our guys behind in that SE Asian sh!thole.
Your republican party machine line will no longer work. America cannot be saved by HALF MEASURES... we need a REAL Conservative President that will make the HARD decisions... not someone that will look for compromise with the left or as Donald Rumsfeld put it... someone that changes his positions to receieve the greatest kudos from the enemedia. Save it FRiend... I will NEVER again vote for a liberal... regardless of the party to which they claim membership in. LLS
Would you vote for someone to the right of Romney/Huckabee to defeat Obama?
Romney represents Soros AND Obama AND ObamaCARE and
the 911 Victory Mosque.
Any other questions?
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