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Arizona Contemptuous of Bloomberg's Gun Show Sting
gothamist.com ^ | 2 February, 2010 | John Del Signore

Posted on 02/03/2011 4:31:41 AM PST by marktwain

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To: Caipirabob

What Bloomie should be made to do is live in one of NYC’s highest crime areas, in public housing with absolutely NO bodyguards [police, private hires, etc], no limo [just public transport] and no personal guns [handguns, shotguns or rifles]. Then let’s see what he thinks of gun ownership.


21 posted on 02/03/2011 6:29:14 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: marktwain

If it is a loophole, then it is not illegal. People use the word loophole constantly (and incorrectly) to define exemptions written into a law.


22 posted on 02/03/2011 6:38:36 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: marktwain

IMHO, if I were a gun show operator, I wouldn’t let private individuals set up tables to sell their private guns. These people give the whole gun show industry a bad name.

Also, it is my opinion that many of these individuals are actually unlicensed gun dealers breaking existing law. I have seen the same people year after year selling (and trading) their “personal” guns at my local gun show. At some point, you stop being just an individual selling his personal guns and become a gun dealer.

An individual has the absolute right to sell his private property, but it doesn’t have to happen at a gun show.

Just my 2 cents


23 posted on 02/03/2011 6:45:14 AM PST by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: marktwain

I’ll admit I didn’t read the entire article. But did these undercovers buy from a private seller or a gun dealer?

If they bought from a private seller at the gun show, just like on the street or at a friends house, you are not required to do background checks on private sells. What’s the big deal here.

Bunch of jackwagons.


24 posted on 02/03/2011 6:56:49 AM PST by 23 Everest (A gun in hand is better than a cop on the phone.)
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To: Hardastarboard
-- Mayor Bloomberg is part of an interstate conspiracy to commit felony straw purchases. At the very least his minions actually DID break a FEDERAL law against purchasing a handgun across state lines. --

So did Bloomberg, and he can't claim the benefit of being unaware - although "knowing it is against the law" is NOT a requirement in order to be found guilty of these particular federal criminal statutes.

There damn well better be indictment, or else the law plays favorites, and is worthy of nothing better than contempt.

25 posted on 02/03/2011 7:07:31 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: 23 Everest
-- If they bought from a private seller at the gun show, just like on the street or at a friends house, you are not required to do background checks on private sells. What's the big deal here. --

The deal is that the private investigators, and the person who hired them to undertake illegal purchases, conspired to and did break federal law.

The seller did nothing wrong, it is the buyer (and the person who hired them) who perpetrated a felony.

26 posted on 02/03/2011 7:11:19 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: marktwain

Technically, the title is too long. It should be:

“Arizona Contemptuous of Bloomberg”


27 posted on 02/03/2011 7:23:01 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Le Chien Rouge
I then ask them if there should be sensible ‘hand control’ laws???

Window control

28 posted on 02/03/2011 7:36:04 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: 23 Everest
But did these undercovers buy from a private seller or a gun dealer?

It doesn't really matter because their agenda is complete and total gun control for law abiding citizens.

29 posted on 02/03/2011 7:41:22 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: A. Patriot

IMHO, if I were a gun show operator, I wouldn’t let private individuals set up tables to sell their private guns. These people give the whole gun show industry a bad name.


And I’d lead the public boycott of your jack-boot-licking policies.

Good luck marketing gun shows with your anti-freedom stand.


30 posted on 02/03/2011 8:34:29 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Beelzebubba
And I’d lead the public boycott of your jack-boot-licking policies. Good luck marketing gun shows with your anti-freedom stand.

Thank you for your opinion. Are you talking about the freedom to sell guns to felons, gang members and crazy people? This happens on the streets now and always will. Why bring this activity into a legitimate gun show? Since individuals can't do background checks, he has no idea if his buyer is one of these types of people. Personally, I never sell any of my guns to people I don't know, or a person that someone I trust can't vouch for.

In a perfect world with perfect freedom, I agree with you. But you know that this so called loophole is how the anti-gunners will shut down gun shows.

Just as a gun show operator should be able to control who sells guns at his event, you also have the right to boycott it.

31 posted on 02/03/2011 9:14:24 AM PST by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: A. Patriot
IMHO, if I were a gun show operator, I wouldn’t let private individuals set up tables to sell their private guns.

Every gun show I've been to (in Virginia) has been clearly posted 'No Private Sales'. I think that may not apply to old Civil War pistols, because I've seen them in cases with other CW relics at tables without an FFL placard, but I personally wouldn't dare fire one without having a gunsmith inspect it carefully first.

32 posted on 02/03/2011 11:11:23 AM PST by nina0113
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33 posted on 02/04/2011 3:07:52 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: marktwain

This pocket Napoleon is one of the more arrogant little dictators in American History.

He and his buddies Schumer, Lautenberg, Menendez, and KIrstin Gillibrand are public enemies and menaces to the Republic.

In Gillibrand and Bloomberg’s case, even their sexuality is questionable. I noticed Gillibrand has apparently eschewed her sexpot image used when she ran for office for a Ellen Degeneris style hairstyle.


34 posted on 02/04/2011 4:07:10 AM PST by ZULU (No nation which ever attempted to tolerate Islam, escaped total Islamization.)
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To: Travis McGee

Agreed. Every story I’ve seen on this so far obfuscates that part. The double speak and contortions are sickening.


35 posted on 02/04/2011 4:09:51 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: marktwain

I was under the impression that non-residents of a state were forbidden under federal law from purchasing handguns and rifles from another state that they did not reside in and furthermore it was a felony offense to then transport said weapons across that states boundaries. I was also under the impression that even LEO’s were not exempt from those very same laws. Apparently I seem to be mistaken.


36 posted on 02/04/2011 4:13:50 AM PST by Ron H. (Impeach the dictator wannabe Impostor!!!)
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To: marktwain

Thank you Mayor Bloomberg for your irresponsible and illegal (imo) action which surely showed the good people of Arizona the folly of indulging the vile delusions that the nanny staters and left were trying to spin after the Tuscon incident.


37 posted on 02/04/2011 4:15:09 AM PST by bvw
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To: marktwain

“...a loophole in federal gun laws allowed them to buy the guns without a background check...”
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File this under “Repeat the lie often enough...”.
Truth is there is no loophole.


“...two gun vendors illegally sold guns to “buyers” who confessed that they probably wouldn’t pass a background check...”
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And just who were these “vendors”?
FFL dealers or private individuals?


38 posted on 02/04/2011 4:20:33 AM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: A. Patriot

You should perhaps apply for a position with either the Obama Administration or perhaps with the U.N. with beliefs you profess to have. Weapon sales between private law abiding citizens is no one others business, not even yours and most especially Big Sis or the BATF!


39 posted on 02/04/2011 4:28:34 AM PST by Ron H. (Impeach the dictator wannabe Impostor!!!)
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To: CPOSharky
I wonder how much this PR stunt cost the taxpayers of NY State?

Not enough, yet.

40 posted on 02/04/2011 4:32:29 AM PST by tacticalogic
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