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Egyptians Turning on Each Other (EGYPT LIVE THREAD # 2)
FOX NEWS ^ | 2 February 2011

Posted on 02/02/2011 7:31:01 AM PST by SE Mom

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To: SE Mom

“They truly do not understand the arab mindset.”

Obama should know better. He’s spent a lot of time with his Pakistani friends, Indonesian step-dad, and visited the ME when he was younger.


1,921 posted on 02/10/2011 2:14:58 PM PST by HollyB
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But, Obama is a believer in ‘the mob’, ‘revolutionary uprising’. He probably didn’t expect it serve him a big bowl of STHU.


1,922 posted on 02/10/2011 2:16:58 PM PST by HollyB
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To: HollyB

2156: Robert Danin from the Council of Foreign Relations in Washington tells the BBC World Service: “It seems to me that behind the scenes there must be some sort of power play taking place between the military and the president. It’s really quite bizarre that the president would stand up, especially on a Thursday night, and essentially antagonise the crowd on the eve of a Friday, traditionally the most volatile day for protests in the Arab world. So tomorrow’s going to be quite a day I expect.”


1,923 posted on 02/10/2011 2:20:41 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom
It’s really quite bizarre that the president would stand up, especially on a Thursday night, and essentially antagonise the crowd on the eve of a Friday, traditionally the most volatile day for protests in the Arab world Yet the US media was all over it. No doubt in my opinion that is why he did it. It was 10pm in Egypt.
1,924 posted on 02/10/2011 2:33:25 PM PST by ColdOne
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To: combat_boots
From Feb 11, 1979.....to Feb 11, 2011........

We should all be aware by now that Islamic activists (read: terrorists) have a tendency to choose dates of significance for their activism (read: terrorism). Symbolism is very important to these freedom fighters (read: tyrannical nutjobs). So, you may be right that Feb 11, 2011, will be a significant day for the revolution (read: bloody coup).

Feb 11 1953 saw a break in diplomatic relations between the Soviet Union and Israel. In 1968 there was a bloody border dispute between Jordan and Israel. On the 11th day of February in 1979 the Iranian revolution brought Ayatollha Khomeini to power.

Will history add another Islamic Theocracy to the list of significant additions on this day? Will it again become a day notable for anti-Israel action? Guess we will find out soon enough.
1,925 posted on 02/10/2011 2:35:29 PM PST by HushTX (If the best defense is a good offense, it's a good thing I'm really offensive.)
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To: SE Mom

Newest from the Tweet feed:

RT @BklynH2Oboy: @SarahKaram1 U.S. military warship off coast of #ALEXANDRIA. SEE FROM WINDOW. #EGYPT


1,926 posted on 02/10/2011 2:54:59 PM PST by HushTX (If the best defense is a good offense, it's a good thing I'm really offensive.)
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To: HushTX

THERE you are- been thinking of you all day. Let us know if you’re hearing anything you can post here...

@cnnbrk: #Egypt Ambassador Shoukry: #Mubarak ceded control of military to VP Suleiman http://on.cnn.com/f9CPes
less than 10 seconds ago via web


1,927 posted on 02/10/2011 2:56:55 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

I was forcing myself to take a little time away from the feeds. Have been keeping in touch with certain people over there, though. Not a lot I can share that hasn’t already been discussed, but if anything comes up I’ll be sure to post it here.

One thing I find interesting is that people are going into the streets of Alexandria... with swords. All the more reason we need to protect the 2nd. I’m not using a damn sword if we need to rise up. Not when the government will come out with guns.


1,928 posted on 02/10/2011 3:01:55 PM PST by HushTX (If the best defense is a good offense, it's a good thing I'm really offensive.)
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marking for reference....
1:25 AM (Egypt)


1,929 posted on 02/10/2011 3:29:22 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: no-to-illegals; SE Mom; HollyB; HushTX; mewzilla; All

Chock-full-of interesting tidbits...

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Quick Takes: News You May Have Missed (Hamas, Code Pink, Soros, Malley, Ayers, Dohrn, Sandy Berger)
The Jewish Press ^ | 2/09/11 | Aaron Klein

Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:38:00 PM by Libloather

Quick Takes: News You May Have Missed
By Aaron Klein
Posted Feb 09 2011

Hamas Behind Gas Terminal Explosion

Militants working on behalf of Hamas were responsible for the dramatic explosion at a gas terminal that disrupted the supply of fuel to Israel, a senior Egyptian security official told this column.

A top Hamas source in the Gaza Strip refused to comment on the accusation.

Egyptian television reported “terrorists” were responsible for the attack, which took place in the El Arish region of the Northern Egyptian Sinai - an area in which Hamas is known to have a presence.

The Egyptian intelligence official said that Hamas used the explosion as a diversion so that dozens of senior Hamas members who were sprung from jail in recent days could be smuggled into the Gaza Strip.

The imprisoned Hamas members broke out of jail following the breakdown of security in Egypt amid the recent protests targeting President Hosni Mubarak.

The Soros Connection

Philanthropist billionaire George Soros has funded opposition organizations in Egypt and throughout the Middle East, where anti-regime chaos has already toppled the pro-Western leader of Tunisia and is threatening the rule of President Hosni Mubarak, a key U.S. ally.

Mohamed ElBaradei, one of the main opposition leaders in Egypt, has also sat on the board of an international “crisis management” group alongside Soros and other personalities who champion dialogue with Hamas, a violent offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.

The Brotherhood, which seeks to spread Islam around the world in part by first creating an Islamic caliphate in Egypt, now backs ElBaradei, who has defended the group in the news media the last few weeks.

ElBaradei suspended his board membership in the International Crisis Group, or ICG last week, after he returned to Egypt to lead the anti-Mubarak protests.

Soros is one of eight members of the ICG executive committee.

U.S. board members include Zbigniew Brzezinski, who was national security adviser to Jimmy Carter; Samuel Berger, who was Bill Clinton’s national security adviser; and retired U.S. ambassador Thomas Pickering, who made headlines in 2009 after meeting with Hamas leaders and calling for the U.S. to open ties to the Islamist group.

Another ICG member is Robert Malley, a former adviser to Obama during the 2008 presidential campaign who resigned after it was exposed he had communicated with Hamas. This reporter first revealed that Malley had long petitioned for dialogue with Hamas.

The ICG defines itself as an “independent, non-profit, multinational organization, with 100 staff members on five continents, working through field-based analysis and high-level advocacy to prevent and resolve deadly conflict.”

Soros also has other ties to opposition groups in the Middle East.

His Open Society Institute’s Middle East and North Africa Initiative has provided numerous grants to a wide range of projects that promote so-called democratic issues across the region, including in Egypt, where the Muslim Brotherhood stands to gain from any future election.

Soros’s Open Society also funded the main opposition voice in Tunisia, Radio Kalima, which championed the riots there that led to the ouster of President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali.

U.S. Official Meets With Muslim Brotherhood

The Egyptian government has information that a diplomat at the U.S. embassy in Cairo secretly met last week with a senior leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, the nation’s major Islamist opposition group, this column has learned.

The topic of the meeting was the future of Egypt following the “fall” of President Mubarak, an Egyptian intelligence official said.

The claim comes amid charges from Cairo that the Obama administration has been encouraging the protests rocking Egypt and targeting the rule of Mubarak.

The Egyptian intelligence official said his government has information of a meeting that took place between Issam El-Erian, a senior leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, and Frank Wisner, a former U.S. ambassador to Egypt.

The Obama administration dispatched Wisner to Egypt this past weekend to report to the State Department and White House a general sense of the situation in the embattled country.

The U.S. State Department would neither confirm nor deny the report.

A Year Ago In January

A year before protests erupted throughout Egypt aimed at toppling the regime of President Mubarak, President Obama’s own associates provoked anti-regime chaos on the streets of the now embattled Middle East country and longtime U.S. ally.

Egypt has accused the Obama administration of championing the protests and of pressuring Mubarak to resign. The main opposition group, the Muslim Brotherhood, stands to gain a major foothold in the region as a result.

Similar scenes unfolded in January 2010, when Obama associates provoked chaos in Egypt in an attempt to enter the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip to join in solidarity with the territory’s population and leadership.

This column reported at the timethat those protests were led by former Weather Underground terrorists William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn - close Obama associates for years.

Another protest leader was Jodie Evans, co-founder of Code Pink, a far-left activist organization formed in 2002 to protest America’s war in Iraq. The group previously met with Hamas and with Taliban leaders. Evans was a fundraiser and financial bundler for Obama’s presidential campaign.

Also protesting in Egypt was Ali Abunimah, co-founder of the anti-Israel Electronic Intifada website. This column previously reportedthat Obama spoke at pro-Palestinian events in the 1990s alongside Abunimah. At one such event, a 1999 fundraiser for Palestinian “refugees,” Abunimah recalls introducing Obama on stage.

The Gaza saga began when the radicals arrived Dec. 31, 2009. Evans appealed to Suzanne Mubarak, the wife of Egypt’s president, to allow some 1,400 activists to cross from Egypt into neighboring Gaza to march there, deliver humanitarian aid and stage a protest at an Israeli border crossing with thousands of Palestinian Gazans. Egypt’s Interior Ministry had said the march was illegal and a threat to national security.

Mubarak reportedly offered to allow only 100 activists to cross into Gaza. The decision was at first reportedly accepted by Evans but was later rejected, leading to protests throughout Cairo all week under a heavy police presence.

Eventually, the protesters accepted the Egyptian offer of allowing about 100 marchers into Gaza. The marchers indeed entered Gaza and were reportedly met on the Gaza side by Hamas’ former Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh.


1,930 posted on 02/10/2011 3:42:55 PM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Uncle Ike
Thank You, Ike. Will be reading your post.
1,931 posted on 02/10/2011 3:49:21 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: HollyB; onyx; SE Mom

Obama is nothing more than a college campus arm chair radical.

He fits right in with Code Pink, International Soldarity and their ilk. He is clueless about the real world. And totally tone deaf.

He managed to really piss off all our Middle East allies. It takes real ineptitude to anger both Israel AND Saudi Arabia.


1,932 posted on 02/10/2011 3:52:15 PM PST by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: no-to-illegals; SE Mom; All

Well, this oughtta be entertaining....

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Obama to Make Written Statement (on Egypt “shortly”)
MSNBC ^ | Thursday, February 10, 2011 | Chuck Todd

Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:51:21 PM by kristinn

...NBC News’ Chuck Todd reports.

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It’s coming up on 7 p.m. in D.C. and 2 a.m. in Cairo.
Obama will be taking yet another position on Egypt. What will he say? “Burn, baby burn!”?

1 posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:51:28 PM by kristinn
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1,933 posted on 02/10/2011 3:53:31 PM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Uncle Ike
a written statement. at least the words can be modified, if necessary, it will not be as 0 has spoken. Wizard of O, moment? 0 and words from 0 would not be helpful ..... mho
1,934 posted on 02/10/2011 4:03:39 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: no-to-illegals

Only 1 in 24 is an actual Egyptian, a copt, the rest are descended from invader Arabs under Moham head’s religious imperatives.


1,935 posted on 02/10/2011 4:07:37 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Uncle Ike; SE Mom; All
Gleamed from BBC, UK

0002: Al-Arabiya TV reports the Egyptian army may issue a second statement tonight. Earlier, the army announced its higher council would "remain in continuous session" without Mr Mubarak to "discuss what measures and arrangements could be taken to safeguard the homeland".

1,936 posted on 02/10/2011 4:19:46 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Uncle Ike

Per FOX- MB imam in Tahrir Sq with a microphone saying Mubarak is a traitor to islam.

Could be the beginning...


1,937 posted on 02/10/2011 4:27:16 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

@joshrogin: Clinton confirms U.S. embassy employee killed in Cairo http://bit.ly/h1pcOe #Jan25 #Egypt
less than 20 seconds ago via TweetDeck


1,938 posted on 02/10/2011 4:28:37 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom
from BBC, UK ....

0015: The BBC's Katty Kay says we are still waiting for a promised statement from the White House. "I think that there's a sense in the White House that saying nothing at moments like this might be the best course. Anything they say risks back-firing."

common sense breaking out?

1,939 posted on 02/10/2011 4:38:04 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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RawyaRageh Many now wondering — how come the military made the statement that it’s standing by protesters, then this speech by Mubarak? #Jan25
about 1 hour ago via web

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RawyaRageh Important question arising after Mubarak’s speech — is there a split btw the military and the presidency? #Egypt #Jan25 #Tahrir
about 1 hour ago via web
Retweeted by AJELive and 44 others


1,940 posted on 02/10/2011 4:41:48 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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