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Russia must replace Kalashnikovs with American and French rifles?
Pravda ^ | 17.01.2011 | Sergei Balmasov

Posted on 01/19/2011 2:17:17 PM PST by Pan_Yan

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1 posted on 01/19/2011 2:17:20 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: JoeProBono
Some Russian experts say that the nation's best sniper rifle is the old Mosin optical rifle.
2 posted on 01/19/2011 2:19:16 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

“compete with the Russian weapon in one or all categories...’.
How ‘bout accuracy?


3 posted on 01/19/2011 2:21:49 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Pan_Yan
What he really meant to say was that now they plan on using less conscript force and more of a volunteer force. These professional soldiers can handle a more sophisticated weapon system.
4 posted on 01/19/2011 2:23:56 PM PST by grapeape (Dick Winters did it right..)
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To: PzLdr

Translation problem or bluster. Your choice.


5 posted on 01/19/2011 2:24:05 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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“As for foreign small arms, let’s take, for instance, American and Israeli arms. They are high precision weapons, but they are designed for very accurate and responsible soldiers, who do not forget to clean them. I believe that it is unrealistic and unnecessary for Russia to purchase small arms from other countries,” the expert said.”

There is a lot of information in this statement.


6 posted on 01/19/2011 2:28:44 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

There sure is.


7 posted on 01/19/2011 2:30:35 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan; humblegunner; Eaker; 50mm
"Some Russian experts say that the nation's best sniper rifle is the old Mosin optical rifle."

So, tell us something we don't already know.


8 posted on 01/19/2011 2:31:49 PM PST by shibumi (I am the Astro-Creep, demolition style an American Freak!)
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To: grapeape

that is exactly what I was thinking, the Russian small arms are better than Western arms for the untrained conscripts but not for a professional fighting force.


9 posted on 01/19/2011 2:38:25 PM PST by dila813
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To: Pan_Yan

AK’s weren’t made for sharpshooters. They were easy to mass produce and cheap. The break down was simple and over all it was rugged enough for the members of the third world to handle. Load the magazine give it to a revolutionary and let him spray away.


10 posted on 01/19/2011 3:00:20 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (The candidate they smear and ridicule the most is the one they fear the most.)
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To: dila813

Yup... and Russian military thinking is outdated and does not correspond to the requirements of a professional volunteer army. Russia is moving in this direction to replace the old Soviet conscript force with one that is better paid, better equipped and better trained. The criticism of Serdyukov is simply unfair. Russia should buy arms abroad when they are of better quality and do the job at less cost. The old Soviet thinking will take time to change.


11 posted on 01/19/2011 3:06:28 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Pan_Yan
Wrong, the German K98 Mauser is the only one that would compete with American made ones.
12 posted on 01/19/2011 3:18:41 PM PST by org.whodat
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I guess moving toward a more accurate rifle is an attempt to show that Russia is becoming more modern. But the AK-47 is, in its own way, a Russian icon. I don’t think they can just scrap it. I suspect they’ll come up with some kind of upgraded version that allows them to retain the AK-47 image.


13 posted on 01/19/2011 3:22:51 PM PST by Triton42
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To: org.whodat

Let me help you with your reading comprehension:

The German K98 Mauser is not a Russian rifle.


14 posted on 01/19/2011 3:31:26 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: TheThirdRuffian
There is a lot of information in this statement.

Yeah, that "expert" is saying that even if Russia goes to a smaller professional army, they will continue to be equipped as if they were expendable peasants. A professional soldier would no more purposely mistreat his most important piece of equipment (rifle) than a cavalry trooper would mistreat his horse. Both are their primary means of survival.

The legendary reliability of the AK series comes from the large amount of combustion gas it bleeds off to really "kick" the action hard, in case it's dirty, muddy, etc. This tends to eventually crack milled receivers, and loosen rivets on the stamped versions. Add in lousy ergonomics (miserable sights, sharp, clumsy, and noisy safety), and western battle rifles look positively luxurious, especially with good optics on them.

The only exception is the Swiss Sig 550-series of 5.56mm rifles. It uses the Kalashnikov bolt and gas system, but otherwise it was redesigned and built like a Rolex.

I was introduced to the M16A1 in 1970, when our training cycle in Basic used the M16 for the entire course. It was fun and easy to shoot, preventing flinching and other bad habits. I had no trouble hitting targets at 300m, which is over twice the average range that the Army has engaged the enemy in all battles since 1776.

Once you convince yourself that you and your rifle have the ability to overcome the enemy at any reasonable (and a few unreasonable) ranges, then concern and uncertainty vanishes, letting you concentrate on other skills.

It's one thing when the commies flooded the third world with 40-50 million AKs, but that market is pretty much saturated now. You can buy as many as you want at $5-10 in any hellhole in the world. But if you're a pro, you need and demand something much better.

15 posted on 01/19/2011 3:36:12 PM PST by 300winmag (Overkill never fails)
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Let me point out to you I was saying the Russian sniper rifle was a pos when compaired to the k98:
16 posted on 01/19/2011 3:36:17 PM PST by org.whodat
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You started by you post with “Wrong” then refuted a claim that neither the article nor any poster made. I’m happy that you like German sniper rifles, but they weren’t being discussed. We can talk about them if you’d like.


17 posted on 01/19/2011 3:43:07 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

Sorry for the poor brain/thumbs/BlackBerry interface.


18 posted on 01/19/2011 3:44:40 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

The AK-47 is one of the best assault rifles available; but, like any other tool, it isn’t perfectly suitable for every job. The good carpenter keeps more than one tool in his tool bag. I generally prefer the M16A2 because the M16A2 is capable of extreme accuracy. The only thing that holds it back is the M855 ball round which is a high quality round but not match grade. I have shot AR15s (using match grade ammo) that will empty their 30 round magazine into a dime at 100 meters. There’s something to be said for that.


19 posted on 01/19/2011 3:46:06 PM PST by RC one (What!!!!)
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To: org.whodat

Fact: The K98 and Col. Koenig Lost to Vasily with his Moisin on the Eastern Front and to the American GIs with their 03’s and Garands on the Western Front.


20 posted on 01/19/2011 3:52:04 PM PST by SwedeBoy2
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