‘The tiniest babies’: survival of babies born weighing less than 400g on the increase

LifeSiteNews ^ | 1/14/10 | Thaddeus Baklinski

[DJ MacWoW]

You are aiming at the same demographic that Sanger did.

I’m for leaving it in His hands.

Then we don't need any doctors or medicine, do we. What you are saying is that you support care only for those on your "approved" list.

[The Good Doctor]

"... yet it would be unthinkable to me to believe that I have a right to life that others don't. Rights come from God, not genetics or culture.""

I'm not saying they don't have a right to life. I'm saying it's a violation of others rights to have to pay for it.

[The Good Doctor]

"Then we don't need any doctors or medicine, do we."

Again, the pragmatist in me responds. Regardless of how good it makes you feel to say that a life is worth any price, it's naive and unsustainable. And you'd agree when they came after your bank account to pay for it.

Furthermore, the bill for these children can be astronomical. Far more than the typical human will ever spend on their own health care.

[The Good Doctor]

"Are you saying that withholding medical care for a baby under 400 g is “leaving it in His hands”?

Would it not be?

[DJ MacWoW]

Again, the pragmatist killer in me responds.

Sorry but treating infants this young also leads to break throughs in medicine.

All the crap you are now spouting does NOT negate your cold hearted attitude in post 7.

I know the argument, "but that baby may have grown up and discovered a cure for cancer!". Yes. And that baby may also have grown up to be a criminal who mugs and murders me some day. Considering my experience with the demographics of ulta-low birthweight babies the latter scenario is more likely than the former.

Nice....."Doc". Guess we know who you treat.

[wyokostur]

Here is a 31 week preemie 17 years later, my son. I'm thankful the Doc's did what they had to do to help him survive. I'm thankful no one decided he shouldn't live because he would have medical problems throughout his life that would be too costly.

[wyokostur]

I’m Thankful he was allowed to live even though we didn’t have anyway to pay. I’m Thankful for taxes being used for righteous reasons, like saving the lives of babies.

[The Good Doctor]

So you advocate “leaving it in His hands” only when someone cannot pay for their own medical care?"

No, I say the same for everyone. If someone responds "but I will spare no personal expense to have this", then I understand and support their decision.

It's when someone responds "I will spare no one else's expense to have this" is when I take issue.

[wagglebee]

I'm not saying they don't have a right to life. I'm saying it's a violation of others rights to have to pay for it.

First of all, it has been my experience that the culture of death invariably brings up cost to further their agenda. Money is introduced as a factor in order to mask the actual evil that is being proposed and your very first statement on this thread was, "There is a cost-benefit ratio for everything."

Secondly, you have yet to even address the fact that nearly all babies are born to mothers with health insurance. What exactly is your criteria for a "cost-benefit ratio"? Is $100K too much? What about $1K? Or is it a single penny?

Finally, if your only concern is cost then why did you bring up the likelihood of them being muggers rather than curing cancer?

[The Good Doctor]

Where do you think insurers get their money?

I'm just pointing out that a preemie can grow up to be a pariah as easily as they can grow up to be a productive citizen. Paying anything to sustain a pariah is a poor use of limited resources.

[wagglebee]

Where do you think insurers get their money?

From the insured.

I'm just pointing out that a preemie can grow up to be a pariah as easily as they can grow up to be a productive citizen.

So can a healthy full-term baby, would you deny them routine medical care?

Paying anything to sustain a pariah is a poor use of limited resources.

One must fully embrace evil to label a premature baby a pariah.

[netmilsmom]

>>Paying anything to sustain a pariah is a poor use of limited resources.<<

You are creeping me out.
A Pre-born or Just born infant is not a pariah.

You play God when you say how a baby will turn out.