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Palin Calls Criticism ‘Blood Libel’
New York Times ^ | January 12, 2011 | MICHAEL D. SHEAR

Posted on 01/12/2011 5:42:46 AM PST by reaganaut1

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To: Melas

I’ve listened to her speak several times and she sounds like she’s smart enough to be President. The POTUS has hundreds of experts available for advice in the Executive Branch and doesn’t need to be a genuis. It’s more important to have good judgment and character and strong leadership ability. Carter and Clinton both had excellent grades in college and high IQ scores but they didn’t have good judgment and good leadership ability in many cases. Carter and Clinton would both have outscored Reagan on an IQ test, but Reagan was the better President because he had better judgment, character, and leadership ability. I think Sarah Palin has that same kind of sound judgment, solid character, courage, and leadership ability.


561 posted on 01/12/2011 1:39:53 PM PST by socialism_stinX (Why did California go bankrupt?...because of unfunded mandates, medicaid, and illegal immigration.)
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To: Melas

Dear God, we lift up another victim of severe PDS, please in Your infinite mercy heal them! Amen!


562 posted on 01/12/2011 1:42:21 PM PST by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: Wolfstar

I agree with your assessment of Palin’s response. By making reference to the media attacks, however warranted, Sarah portrayed herself as a victim. By using the phrase “blood libel” she, intended or not, portrayed herself as a victim on the same level as the most persecuted ethnic group in history.

While it clearly made a great many people in the Conservative movement happy to hear, and has played to resounding cheers here on FR, I don’t think it was the right thing to do if she has presidential ambitions.

I am not one of those who doubt her intelligence. I believe that she knew what she was saying and meant what she said. I believe that this is the first clear signal we’re getting that Sarah Palin is not going to run for President in 2012. I believe she’s decided that she can be more effective in her role as Conservative champion without the constraints that being a politician places on someone.

She can sit back and play the role of “Kingmaker” handing her blessing (and twenty million devoted voters) to the candidate she feels most likely to a) win and b) represent her views in Washington.

It may sadden a great many on FR, and no doubt there will be much gnashing of teeth and bloodletting amongst conservatives, but I don’t think she’s wrong in her assessment of her own power and potential.


563 posted on 01/12/2011 1:44:49 PM PST by Behemothpanzer (You are entitled to your own opinion. You are not entitled to your own facts.)
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To: Jess79; Melas
Like Clyburn has any room to criticize anyone else’s intellectual capabilities.

I know. Melas was essentially saying the same thing as Clyburn.

564 posted on 01/12/2011 1:44:59 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

The term blood libel comes from long before the Nazi party. It’s much more closely related to attacks upon the Jews coming from various Christian churches and groups. The reason it’s called blood libel is because it was alleged that the Jews killed young Christian boys in ritual sacrifices and used their blood to make matzo for Passover.

I disagree with Alan Dershowitz.

I don’t think that Palin should be lynched or anything; I just think that it was a poor choice of words and an attempt to make more of the situation than what really is.


565 posted on 01/12/2011 1:45:21 PM PST by Domalais
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Like I said, with just one speech... the media is no longer able to focus on their message of the ‘TEA party and Palin caused the shooting’.

It’s now all about Palin’s message. The media is now focused on what she wanted them to be focused on, the notion of the media’s actions and whether the term ‘blood libel’ is appropriate.


566 posted on 01/12/2011 1:45:38 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
It may be sad, but it is their job.

The job of the Left’s collaborators here is never done, and has been going on quite a while.

Whenever the MSM/DNC war room kicks up a “controversy”, real or imagined....it is the duty of their consorts on FR push the meme, push the propaganda and the spin.

They did it with GWB, Cheney, Delay, Libby, George Allen (maccaca), with Rush, anyone and everyone the in the left’s bulls-eye.

It is all documented in their posting history.

567 posted on 01/12/2011 1:45:38 PM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: dirtboy
...which are nothing more than uninformed emoting. LIBERAL MEMES.

Fixed it.
568 posted on 01/12/2011 1:48:30 PM PST by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: Domalais

You know, that’s a perfectly valid viewpoint. I tend to side with Dershowitz, as my comments should indicate. I of course mean no disrespect of any kind.

It’s a highly emotional issue, as I’m sure you’ll agree. I think you might also agree with me when I say that had the left not raised the issue in the first place you and I would not be having this discussion.

I guess I just don’t have a problem with her usage. Clearly you do and I respect that.


570 posted on 01/12/2011 1:50:07 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("I'd rather lose fighting for the right cause than win fighting for the wrong cause." - Jim DeMint)
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To: Domalais
I disagree with Alan Dershowitz.

And I find myself agreeing with him.

Didn't Andrew Sullivan use the term to decribe persecution against gays? Oh, yes, and I remember all the outrage then.

Wait a minute ... I guess I don't.

571 posted on 01/12/2011 1:51:08 PM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Behemothpanzer
I agree with your assessment of Palin’s response. By making reference to the media attacks, however warranted, Sarah portrayed herself as a victim.

Thank you, and I agree that she made herself a victim. In a way she is, but she doesn't need to point that out. Others were doing a fine job of pointing it out for her, and the public relations battle was largely won.

I don't know if she's running for president or not. A part of me wishes she would not, and a part of me wishes she would so I can see how things play out in the debates later this year.

572 posted on 01/12/2011 1:54:34 PM PST by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: dirtboy
I'm curious how someone's free speech is curtailed by Jim deciding what he wants posted on his own website.

Oh? Did JimRob change FR's mission from that of a conservative news and information website to a "Sarah Palin for President" website? If so, I missed it.

There is a time and a place for such scrums, and they have been freely happening for months. But this is not the time for ankle biting.

Yes, which is why it's best to let people who are uncomfortable with Palin's statement today have their say. Just let them have their say and move on. What you see as "ankle biting," others see as their sincerely held beliefs about the situation.

Take me, for instance. If you haven't already, please consider reading my post #518 on this thread. I agree with every word Palin said in her statement today, including the blood libel reference. However, I think her timing and delivery were poor. Does saying so make me any less of a conservative than you? Of course not!

573 posted on 01/12/2011 1:55:06 PM PST by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: wolf24

Excellent point. These MSM punks just decided by decree that this shooting is “a defining moment for Sarah Palin.” I read that yesterday in Yahoo news and I was really angered by the arrogance and audacity of the MSM writer who put that in his article with no factual basis behind that statement. He just decided himself that this is a “defining moment” for Palin and went off editorializing in a “news” article by putting that statement into his article. That statement is pure opinion intended to make this shooting about Palin and to smear her in the process. This, you MSM punks, is why you’re rapidly losing your audience...because you’re so deceptive and unprofessional, you’re so incredibly arrogant that you think your worthless opinions are facts, and and you politicize everything in your news reporting.


574 posted on 01/12/2011 1:57:16 PM PST by socialism_stinX (Why did California go bankrupt?...because of unfunded mandates, medicaid, and illegal immigration.)
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To: Domalais

As a member of the Tea Party, *I* have been accused of MURDERING innocent people in Arizona.

Palin’s “Reaganesque Refudiation” of the attacks against herself and the Tea Party spoke her defense not only for herself, but for millions of people like *me*.


575 posted on 01/12/2011 1:57:35 PM PST by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: Wolfstar; Melas
Don't ever relinquish your freedom of speech in pursuit of false popularity on some website.

I have lost count of the posts of mine that have been deleted today. Because I critique Sarah, I'm called leftist and a media parrot. This would be in spite of all my other postings to the contrary. Trying to bring rationality to a discussion of Palin is just too hot to handle for some.

576 posted on 01/12/2011 1:58:41 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Remember, Reflect, Renew: 2011, 10 years since 9/11. Never Forget.)
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To: Netizen

The “when did you stop beating your wife” form of argument isn’t really an argument so much as a lack of one.

Did you ASK me what I would do? I didn’t see a question.

There are a LOT of things I didn’t say. If you could give me a list of what topics you actually want to see me write about, it might narrow things down a bit.

Seriously. I made my argument. If you don’t want to argue my point, feel free to ignore it. But don’t think you can simply raise a hypothetical straw man in it’s place and pretend you are making a point.


577 posted on 01/12/2011 1:58:55 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: All
Well,thanks to the PDS RINOs on Free Republic,the MSM can accurately claim that the irrational hate for SP is bipartisan.

Kind of like Lindsay Graham who helps to make much of the Leftist agenda in the US Senate “bipartisan.”

578 posted on 01/12/2011 2:00:17 PM PST by Happy Rain
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To: NavyCanDo; TexasFreeper2009; ExGeeEye

I am sure she will regret the use of that term - she obviously does not know the connotation of that phrase.


579 posted on 01/12/2011 2:02:18 PM PST by Cardhu
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To: Domalais
I don't know, but until we start being massacred and buried in anonymous graves, let's not compare the difficulties of being a conservative in America with thousands of years of religious persecution suffered by the Jews.

They came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

--Martin Niemöller--

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" - George Santayana

Today one might say "Those who want to hold the past in memory as if it were theirs and theirs alone are condemned to be complicit in its recurrence."

580 posted on 01/12/2011 2:03:46 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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