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Well, that took about what, 2 hours?
1 posted on 01/08/2011 1:03:18 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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THE Government is trying to figure out if they should encourage this or not. She IS a Blue Dog, but she IS a woman. The shooter IS white but is he a LEFTY?


31 posted on 01/08/2011 1:46:32 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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That's what the leftists do. "Never let a crisis go to waste."

We need to put a firewall out to protect our freedoms. No new free speech restrictions. No new restrictions on our 2nd Amendment rights. No new restrictions on our freedoms. Period. Non negotiable.

32 posted on 01/08/2011 1:48:17 PM PST by Darren McCarty (We should lead ourselves instead of looking for leaders)
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Prayers for the congresswoman and all the victims.
Heard the dribble from Linda Lopez but also Fox News graphics were showing that Congresswoman Giffords defeated a TEA Party candidate in the November election.
Already shown the shooter is a whack job.
Will Senator Lopez and Shep the Shlep apologize? Waitng, waiting, Buhler, Buhler, anybody?


34 posted on 01/08/2011 1:49:44 PM PST by FreedomGuru (Obama is a home grown terrorist.)
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Lopez and Shep might have made this speculation, but this originated with congresswoman Gifford's father, who was asked if Gabrielle had any enemies. His response was, "Yeah...the whole Tea Party." Which, in the political sense, is a true statement. Doesn't necessarily translate into "the Tea Party shot my daughter," though, or even "a particular deranged member of the Tea Party shot my daughter." From what I hear now, the shooter was fond of the Communist Manifesto.
35 posted on 01/08/2011 1:50:32 PM PST by RepublitarianRoger2
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Didn’t we all have that thought when we first heard? IF it turned out to be a white guy, he was going to be an ex-soldier +/o a Tea Partier. Wait until the talkinghead shows tomorrow!


36 posted on 01/08/2011 1:51:07 PM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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Everyone needs to screenshot and save everything about this guy before the enemedia and Googlenazis scrub it all from history!


39 posted on 01/08/2011 2:02:16 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Let this chant follow BHO everywhere he goes: "You lie. You lie. You lie.")
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I listened to the entire interview with Lopez about this tragic horror on Fox News and heard no implication of the sort. What did stand out was an earlier interview with one of their male reporters apparently stationed in AZ, Scott Mc?, who was reporting on the fact that a gun was used and concluded that it must have been an “automatic weapon”....FOX, if your dumb reporters don’t know anything about guns, EDUCATE THEM!!!!

Folks, if those on the obscene left want to politicize what happened to Mrs.Giffords (She is the wife of an astronaut and the mother of two children as well as a daughter of loving and frightened parents) then let them stain their lives and reputations by doing so. There were multiple victims and fatalities. Please, let us behave honorably and avoid getting into the gutter with those who are now vilifying us and anyone who opposes them.


42 posted on 01/08/2011 2:12:27 PM PST by Postman
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Yeah, looking at Daily Kos (difficult after eating; I probably shouldn’t have) it’s apparent that they’re applying the Rahm Rule: let no crisis go to waste.

Cold-hearted bastards. There are humans hurt, dead, families grieving. But they just couldn’t pass up the chance to score political points and couldn’t even wait one lousy day to do it.


45 posted on 01/08/2011 2:59:26 PM PST by hitkicker
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We need to demand an apology


46 posted on 01/08/2011 3:04:19 PM PST by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad)
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View the shooter on u tube. http://gizmodo.com/5728619/the-myspace-of-jared-loughner-the-guy-who-shot-a-congresswoman-hinted-at-violence


72 posted on 01/08/2011 5:42:06 PM PST by katiedidit1
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You know, with so many lefties making the same claim, that the Tea Party was involved, it almost seems like the democRAT talking points were put out ahead of the event. They’re all on the same page with this, like always.

Too bad that the guy’s got a history on the internet and it is not the history of a conservative nor a tea party member.


80 posted on 01/08/2011 7:29:35 PM PST by meyer (Obama - the Schwartz is with him.)
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You know, with so many lefties making the same claim, that the Tea Party was involved, it almost seems like the democRAT talking points were put out ahead of the event. They’re all on the same page with this, like always.

Too bad that the guy’s got a history on the internet and it is not the history of a conservative nor a tea party member.


81 posted on 01/08/2011 7:30:12 PM PST by meyer (Obama - the Schwartz is with him.)
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Linda Lopez 29 D llopez@azleg.gov 312 926-4089 417-3029


90 posted on 01/08/2011 9:22:37 PM PST by doug from upland (Barack Hussein Obama - making Jimmy Carter look better every day)
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Linda Lopez

91 posted on 01/08/2011 9:23:19 PM PST by winstonwolf33
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-—— Original Message -——
From: DOUGLAS **********
To: llopez@azleg.gov
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 9:28 PM
Subject: shooting off your mouth - what a fool

Just amazing, Ms. Lopez. Blaming the Tea Party for the horrific shooting. Of course, it was all nonsense spewing from your mouth without even the most rudimentary fact gathering. Just typical political bullshit from your side.

Jarod Laugner is an atheist and a leftist. He admits that the Communist Manifesto is one of his favorite books. Do you now wish to retract your foolish statement or will you just scurry away and hide like a cockroach?


95 posted on 01/08/2011 9:31:07 PM PST by doug from upland (Barack Hussein Obama - making Jimmy Carter look better every day)
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Linda who?

Oh... Linda A-HOLE

Well, that explains it.


97 posted on 01/08/2011 10:14:50 PM PST by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !When a majority of the American)
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Just how well do all these libbies TRULY know Gabrielle Giffords?

Seriously.

How come there is only one person in politics, of whom I've read, who is in literal, real tears, and who speaks of an actual friendship with Giffords????

http://m.startribune.com/topic/1554-Local%20+%20Metro%20News/articles/203810275

...Rep. Michele Bachmann says her "tears are flowing" at the news. She says she had the privilege of knowing Giffords as a friend, and she calls her colleague someone who governed with integrity and wisdom.

101 posted on 01/09/2011 4:09:57 AM PST by hennie pennie
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It`s monkey see, monkey do time. No one wants to be left out.


103 posted on 01/09/2011 8:13:31 AM PST by chessplayer
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Gotta face up to it. No matter how much proof there is that the nut was a lefty, it will go down in the history books that he was a right-winger. And theres nothing we can do about it.


104 posted on 01/09/2011 8:16:02 AM PST by chessplayer
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Below is a link to an excellent article about this insane killer:

http://azdailysun.com/news/local/state-and-regional/article_663d67a8-0e82-569b-a2fe-46306174e1fe.html

Suspect in rampage called ‘very disturbed’

TIM STELLER Arizona Daily Star azdailysun.com

The man arrested for opening fire at a community meeting held by U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords Saturday — killing six people and injuring 13 others — disrupted classes at Pima Community College, tried to manipulate his dreams and posted rambling messages on the Internet.

The suspected shooter is Jared Lee Loughner, a 22-year-old who lives on the northwest side. He is mentally unstable and may have had an accomplice, Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik said Saturday evening.

A former classmate of Loughner at Pima, from which he was suspended Sept. 29 for code-of-conduct violations, said he was “obviously very disturbed.”

“He disrupted class frequently with nonsensical outbursts,” said Lynda Sorenson, who took a math class with Loughner last summer at Pima Community College’s Northwest campus.

Dupnik said the suspected shooter has made death threats before and been contacted by law-enforcement officers. The threats weren’t against Giffords, Dupnik said.
Investigators are looking for a second person who may be an accomplice, Dupnik said.
“We are not convinced he acted alone,” Dupnik said of the shooter. “We have photos,” he said, of a man in his 50s.

“There’s some reason to believe that (the shooter) came to this location with another individual. And there’s reason to believe the other individual would in some way be involved,” he said.

Loughner has several online accounts, which suggest he has spent most of his life on the northwest side: His MySpace profile says he attended Thornydale Elementary School, Tortolita Middle School and Mountain View High School.

As a middle school student, Loughner was “kind of an outcast,” said Shannin Macey, who said via e-mail she attended Tortolita and Mountain View with him.

In high school, Loughner was in jazz band and played the saxophone, but he dropped out in junior year, said Tommy Marriotti, who was a high-school friend of Loughner. At the time he dropped out, Loughner was having drug problems, Marriotti said, but he seemed to do well once he started taking classes at Pima.

Loughner attended Pima courses from summer 2005 until he withdrew in October after his suspension, the college said.

He tried to enlist in the Army in 2008 but was rejected, said First Sgt. Brian Homme, who oversees Army recruiting in Tucson. Loughner was sent to Phoenix to take a test and physical, but “he was found to be unqualified,” Homme said.

Loughner registered to vote for the first time in 2006, said Chris Roads, Pima County’s registrar of voters. He registered as an independent and last voted in the 2008 general election.

Sorenson, Loughner’s classmate at Pima, said he was asked to leave the pre-algebra class several times and eventually was barred from class.

Pima officials said in a news release that from February to September 2010, Loughner had five contacts with PCC police for classroom and library disruptions at Northwest and West campuses.

Another Pima classmate, Lydian Ali, said Loughner would frequently laugh aloud to himself during the advanced-poetry class they attended. Only about 16 people were in the class, so Loughner’s behavior stood out, Ali said.

“It almost seemed like he was on his own planet, because his comments would have nothing to do with what we were talking about,” Ali said.

Loughner’s online accounts contain some political comments but are dominated by bizarre discussions of his desire to establish a new currency and his disdain for what he considered the public’s low literacy rates. He also wrote threatening and despairing messages.

“WOW! I’m glad i didn’t kill myself. I’ll see you on National T.v.! This is foreshadow .... why doesn’t anyone talk to me? ..” he posted on MySpace Dec. 14.
On Dec. 13, he wrote: “I don’t feel good: I’m ready to kill a police officer! I can say it.”

In a posting on YouTube, Loughner wrote repeatedly about a new currency.
“I’m thinking of creating a new currency,” he wrote. “Therefore, I’m thinking of a design for my new coins size, shape, color, material, and image to start a new money system.”

He also wrote repeatedly about literacy. In a message on YouTube, Loughner wrote: “The majority of people, who reside in District-8 are illiterate — hilarious. I don’t control your English grammar structure, but you control your English grammar structure.”

In a message posted on his MySpace account, titled “Goodbye friends,”
Loughner said: “Dear friends...please don’t be mad at me. The literacy rate is below 5%. I haven’t talked to one person who is literate.” It was unclear when it was posted.

In a MySpace profile, Loughner said “My favorite interest was reading, and I studied grammar. Conscience dreams were a great study in college.” Conscious dreaming is trying to manipulate your dreams, an interest Loughner pursued, Marriotti said.

He lists among his favorite books “Mein Kampf” and “The Communist Manifesto”. But he also includes a broad variety of other titles,
including: “Animal Farm,” “Brave New World,” “To Kill a Mockingbird,” and “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”.

In another YouTube message, Loughner said: “I know who’s listening:
Government Officials, and the People. Nearly all the people, who don’t know this accurate information of a new currency, aren’t aware of mind control and brainwash methods. If I have my civil rights, then this message wouldn’t have happen.”

“In conclusion, my ambition - is for informing literate dreamers about a new currency; in a few days, you know I’m conscience dreaming! Thank you!”

In a YouTube video dated Dec. 15, titled “Introduction: Jared Loughner,” he describes himself as a U.S. military recruit who had applied to join the Army.

In the video, Loughner makes a rambling mention of “MEPS in Phoenix” an apparent reference to the Military Entrance Processing Station in the state capital that all Arizona recruits from every branch of service pass through before leaving for basic training.
“Every United States military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix is receiving one mini bible before the tests,” it said. “Jared Loughner is a United States military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix. Therefore, Jared Loughner is receiving one mini bible before the tests.
“I didn’t write a belief on my Army application and the recruiter wrote on the application: None.”

Sgt. Homme declined to say why Loughner was rejected, citing confidentiality laws.

Loughner has had at least two minor run-ins with police, online court records show.
In October 2007, Loughner was cited by the Pima County Sheriff’s Department for possession of drug paraphernalia, a charge that was dismissed in November 2007 when he completed a diversion program.

One year later, in October 2008, Loughner faced a “local charge” in Marana Municipal Court. That charge was also dismissed following the completion of a diversion program in March 2009.

Court records indicate the Marana case file is due to be purged in December 2013. It’s unclear what the exact charge was.
Grant Wiens, 22, attended Mountain View High School with Loughner, although they were not in the same grade.

Wiens also took a class at Pima Community College with Loughner, where they occasionally talked, he said.

“He was a guy in high school who definitely had his opinions on stuff and didn’t seem to care what people thought of him,” Wiens said. “He did his own thing.”
Star reporters Carol Ann Alaimo, Alex Dalenberg, Fernanda Echavarri, Patrick Finley, Ernesto Portillo Jr. and Sarah Trotto contributed to this report.


105 posted on 01/09/2011 8:47:32 AM PST by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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