Posted on 01/05/2011 8:25:06 PM PST by Melissa 24
So you are a doctor that reports “sids” death to the VAERS, when it happens within 12-72 hours of vaccinations? http://vaers.hhs.gov/index
Or you just trust they do?
One does NOT have to be a physician to report and the reporter need NOT be sure what is reported was related to the vaccination.
From the link you provided:
“What Can Be Reported to VAERS?
VAERS seeks reports of any clinically significant medical event that occurs after vaccination, even if the reporter cannot be certain that the event was caused by the vaccine. CDC/ISO and FDA review adverse reports; VAERS has identified important signals that after further research resulted in changes to vaccine recommendations. VAERS encourages the reporting of any clinically significant adverse event that occurs after the administration of any vaccine licensed in the United States. You should report adverse events even if you are unsure whether a vaccine caused the event.
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Who Reports to VAERS?
Anyone can file a VAERS report, including health care providers, manufacturers, and vaccine recipients. The majority of VAERS reports are sent in by vaccine manufacturers (37%) and health care providers (36%). The remaining reports are obtained from state immunization programs (10%), vaccine recipients (or their parent/guardians, 7%) and other sources (10%). Vaccine recipients or their parents or guardians are encouraged to seek the help of their health care professional in filling out the VAERS form. Each report provides valuable information that is added to the VAERS database. Accurate and complete reporting of post-vaccination events supplies the information needed for evaluation of vaccine safety. The CDC and FDA use VAERS information to ensure the safest strategies of vaccine use and to further reduce the rare risks associated with vaccines.”
Sounds like a plot to send the black helicopters in, doesn’t it?
Did you know about it before I posted it? Anytime I have heard of a parent complaining about a reaction following a shot, I recommend they have their doctor report it. I have heard back 5 times in the last year, the doctor would NOT report it, and they didn’t know they could report it either.
You talked earlier about children choking to death because of whooping cough, when in reality according to WHO (again) 1 out of 100 children die under the age of 12 months, 2 out of children aged 12+ die because of whooping cough - yet the whooping cough vaccination has had the highest reported side effects, including neurological and seizures that result in permanent issues.
Kids have to have 4 shots by the time they are three for the vaccination to be covered, the vaccine gives iffy protection for 5-10 years before another booster is required. However, once you have had whooping cough your body typically provides immunity to it going forward. Same as measles, same as mumps, same as chicken pox. So I’m sure it’s inconvenient to have these diseases, and terribly uncomfortable and unpleasant for the child, and its heart wrenching for parents watching their child fight it - but again, what I see of your arguments aren’t really health benefits for the child - it’s because you’ve been scared into thinking your child(ren) will die for having a normal childhood illness.
We’re obviously not going to have a meeting of the minds on this, I would encourage you to study up on the WHO site, look at Wikipedia - neither of them are ANTI-Vax sites, look at the governments own defense fund and why it’s available.
I didn’t know of that particular site but I did know reactions could be reported. It simply has never been necessary among anyone I have known who has been vaccinated and by now that’s a rather large number. Hundreds perhaps.
Since you recommended Wikipedia, here’s what it says under “pertussis” in part:
“Controversy
Much of the controversy surrounding the DPT vaccine in the 1970s and 1980s related to the question of whether the whole-cell pertussis component caused permanent brain injury in rare cases. Although it was well-established that the pertussis component of the DPT vaccine accounted for most of the minor local and systemic side effects in many vaccinated infants, several published studies failed to show a causal relationship between administration of the DPT vaccine and permanent brain injury. However, criticism of these studies and well-publicized anecdotal reports of DPT-induced permanent disability and death gave rise to anti-DPT movements.[8] In addition, a number of children suffered allergic and adverse reactions to the pertussis vaccination, including severe seizures. Despite this, doctors recommended the vaccine due to the overwhelming public health benefit.”
Did you read this? “Much of the controversy surrounding the DPT vaccine in the 1970s and 1980s related to the question of whether the whole-cell pertussis component caused permanent brain injury in rare cases. Although it was well-established that the pertussis component of the DPT vaccine accounted for most of the minor local and systemic side effects in many vaccinated infants, several published studies failed to show a causal relationship between administration of the DPT vaccine and permanent brain injury.”
You said Wikipedia was not a “ANTI-Vax” site, then neither is it pro-vax. Despite your recommendation of the site you still say in contradiction of the above,
“yet the whooping cough vaccination has had the highest reported side effects, including neurological and seizures that result in permanent issues.”
And then you add,
“.... .look at the governments own defense fund and why it’s available”
O.K., let’s look in that Wikipedia site:
“In the United States, low profit margins and an increase in vaccine-related lawsuits led many manufacturers to stop producing the DTP vaccine by the early 1980s.[citation needed] In 1982, the television documentary “DTP: Vaccine Roulette” depicted the lives of children whose severe disabilities were blamed on the DTP vaccine. The negative publicity generated by the documentary led to a tremendous increase in the number of lawsuits filed against vaccine manufacturers.[11] By 1985, manufacturers of vaccine had difficulty obtaining liability insurance.”
Hence the reasonable course was just to quit making the vaccine at all. So the feds introduced “no-fault” coverage.
Side effects? Sometimes. “Despite this, doctors recommended the vaccine due to the overwhelming public health benefit.”
The sites you recommend so far don’t really support your contentions, in fact just the opposite but don’t let that stop you.
I stand by what I said earlier, the benefits of vaccines vastly outweigh the problems.
As a side note, the value of colostrum is not in stimulating the immune system. In the first 24 hours, the earlier the more effective, the colostrum containing concentrated antibodies, is absorbed in whole molecules of formed antibodies, which then imparts protection to the calf for the first 6-8 weeks from antigens that momma was exposed to, including asnything the cow may have been vaccinated with.
After 24 hours, the colostrum is mostly broke down and used for energy, and some local immunity in the GI tract.
Colostrum stimulates cell mediated immunity, but yes, it only temporarily acts to protect directly from antigens the mother was exposed to by transfer of antibodies, which have a half life of a couple days usually - 6-8 weeks of passive immunity.
Keep reading and educating yourself, not just pulling one or two paragraphs out.
Take care.
Your entire anecdotal unsubstantiated story is sort of useless when you realize vaccinations haven’t contained mercury for more years than your kids have been alive.
Your magical stories are wonderful and I hope they are true. I hope even more that you realize how utterly unique they apparently are.
I’m not from a pharma background, and I’m not associated with the government. I have looked at several studies, and the conclusions are very clear from large, well done studies. Vaccines have nothing to do with autism.
What you’ve potentially done to your daughter and/or your community is awful.
You’re going to need to do better than that.
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