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Extraterrestrials, American Exceptionalism, and the Left-Right Gap (Dems tend to believe in ET)
Townhall ^ | 12/27/2010 | Michael Medved

Posted on 12/29/2010 10:10:06 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 12/29/2010 10:10:09 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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http://www.coasttocoastam.com/


2 posted on 12/29/2010 10:11:14 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: SeekAndFind

More here:

http://collidinguniverses.blogspot.com/search?q=extraterrestrials

Do you have to be an American liberal to believe in extraterrestrials?

Yes, folks, I thought this was Hoax News at work too.

But Michael Medved reports,

These clashing opinions on extraterrestrials amount to more than a trivial split on an arcane topic; they connect, in fact, both logically and emotionally to big conflicts over worldview, culture, politics and America’s role in history.

In Colorado, these conflicts erupted in a recent battle over a proposed Denver commission to investigate visitations from alien life forms. Initiative 300 won enough signatures to qualify for the ballot in November 2010 but lost in a landslide, with conservatives leading the derision of the “ET Initiative,” as a loony waste of taxpayer money. The chief support for “greater transparency” regarding sightings and encounters came from the city’s Bohemian left, with advocates proudly citing the interest in flying saucers from liberal icons like Jimmy Carter and John Podesta, Bill Clinton’s former chief of staff.

Polls show that Americans remain closely divided on attitudes toward extraterrestrials, with a 2008 Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll reporting 56% who believe it is “very likely” or “somewhat likely” that intelligent life has developed in other worlds. Self-described Democrats (according to the same survey) are far more likely to say they have personally seen “visitors from another world” than are their Republican counterparts, who remain distinctly skeptical.


3 posted on 12/29/2010 10:11:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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Well I am not a dem and I kow there are UFO’s.


4 posted on 12/29/2010 10:12:28 AM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 2010 voters w/his tax bill!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Anyone else find the rash or recent articles (i.e., liberal vs. conservative; thick brains, dna traits etc..) a little curious?


5 posted on 12/29/2010 10:14:08 AM PST by Michael Barnes (Guilty of being White.)
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I believe in Aliens, I just don’t believe they’re visiting us.

There’s a pretty wide range of thought on the matter from the entire political spectrum.


6 posted on 12/29/2010 10:14:34 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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*shrug* Well, this conservative hopes there is intelligent life somewhere in the universe!
7 posted on 12/29/2010 10:15:27 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 706 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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I’m not counting on Michael Medved to find it.


8 posted on 12/29/2010 10:16:26 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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Statement: "Self-described Democrats (according to the same survey) are far more likely to say they have personally seen “visitors from another world” than are their Republican counterparts, who remain distinctly skeptical."

Response: They voted a person from another "world" into the office of president.

9 posted on 12/29/2010 10:16:55 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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UFO=UNIDENTIFIED flying? object

I once believed the hype and b.s. of many in the UFO business,and they turned out to be charlatans and oddballs making a living from sales of books to the curious.

Many UFO reports are made by a people unfamiliar with the wonders of nature in the sky,and I suspect many others are reports of actual craft produced right here on Earth by the Air Force and Rockwell,etc.

10 posted on 12/29/2010 10:17:23 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: cripplecreek

So, if one assumes they are around then isn’t safe to assume they land?


11 posted on 12/29/2010 10:17:35 AM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 2010 voters w/his tax bill!)
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The odds are overwhelming that there are others living in the universe(s).

I hope they are smarter than we.

12 posted on 12/29/2010 10:18:27 AM PST by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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I tend to believe there are aliens. I seriously doubt we have been visited by them, nor do I believe we will ever have interactions with them.


13 posted on 12/29/2010 10:18:33 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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Conservative can ENJOY a fairy tale.

Liberals BELIEVE in fairy tales.

14 posted on 12/29/2010 10:18:45 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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Google UK and UFO released report, read it then get back to me.

BTW- it mentions a UFO as large as an aircraft carrier, but what do pilots of F15’s know?

Also read about the moon mission where they reported being followed to the moon and watched while on the surface.

But what do they know they were just the best of the best from America.


15 posted on 12/29/2010 10:20:54 AM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 2010 voters w/his tax bill!)
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To: hoosierham

Also google UFO 1952 washington dc


16 posted on 12/29/2010 10:21:40 AM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 2010 voters w/his tax bill!)
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Its a mighty big universe. Being “around” might put them 1000 light years away.


17 posted on 12/29/2010 10:22:43 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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Exactly my point. There’s a wide range of thought on the issue.


18 posted on 12/29/2010 10:23:49 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

Google ufo wasington dc 1952 and tell me what you think.


19 posted on 12/29/2010 10:24:54 AM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 2010 voters w/his tax bill!)
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One of the moment’s most emotional debates centers on the related notion of “American exceptionalism”: does our country represent a uniquely blessed, beneficial development in human history, or a flawed nation state like many others, displaying a maddening mix of admirable and appalling characteristics?

What an idiotic straw man definition.

Of course America is a "a flawed nation state like many others, displaying a maddening mix of admirable and appalling characteristics."

The question is not one of whether American history, actions and values has been perfect and of unmixed goodness, it is one of the net effect and value of America as compared to the net effect and value of other societies/nations. While both are mixed, 70% good vs. 30% bad is significant when compared to 30% good vs 70% bad.

IMO, by that definition America is quite exceptional.

This "there is no black and white, only shades of gray" argument is a common one on the left, and is fallacious. While it is technically correct when dealing with any human activity, the purpose of making the argument is to imply, without saying so explicitly, that there is no real difference between dark gray and light gray, which is just stupid.

20 posted on 12/29/2010 10:24:56 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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