Posted on 12/18/2010 11:33:01 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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precious = precarious
“Actually, no one sin is greater than another, except blasphemy of the Holy Ghost.”
Actually, this true as far as any sin making one guilty of being a sinner, but the Bible evidences a degree of guilt, in terms of accountability, (Lk. 16:48) and types of sins:
(Colossians 3:5-8) “{5} Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: {6} For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: {7} In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.
{8} But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. “
Furthermore, it was not for being impatient or smoking that God destroyed Sodom (nor was it primarily for inhospitality), but for gross sin and remaining impenitent which was a product of their idolatry, the mother of sins.
Ron:
Given the depravity that GLAAD represents, I think that is a pretty nasty epithet. I have also been called a “troll” and worse tonight, and I’m not the only one who has been castigated for noticing that some posters were getting very close to expressing personal hatred rather than disapproval of bad behavior. Civility was missing in much of this discussion.
Many people on FR who loathe and fight against the homo agenda know some homosexuals personally as long time friends or relatives.
I hold nothing but compassion for them, pray for them, hope they’ll change, and feel sorrow for the suffering they have (and will have).
But the agenda is Evil, and sexual dysfunction, sin and mental illness should not be tolerated, what to speak of “celebrated”. They need help, not support of their sickness.
It is not about hate, but love. How can i love God and not hate what He hates, both in me and in others, while the reason homosexuality has become such a lightning rod is because, unlike such things as drug addiction, it is promoted to young and old - and increasingly to the very young - as something healthy and normative.
And how can I love my neighbor as thyself if I do not seek to turn them from a sin which will most likely send them to an early grave, and surely to eternal hell?
If you think this discussion was uncivil, then you have never discussed the homosexual agenda with its pushers.
I think you should save your disapproval for those who are trying to turn the world into Sodom and Gomorrah, not keep criticizing those who are fighting against the homo agenda.
Not only has civility been missing, but most of the behavior has been embarrassingly juvenile. Zots? And some people actively promoting that they have been responsible for others being “zotted.” Kindergarten behavior at best.
Thank you. I accept the teachings of Jesus Christ as well as the Vedas, since they are remarkably similar, although others might not see the connection; it is a long topic.
But the basic moral absolutes are almost exactly the same, and I fully respect and honor the Judeo-Christian foundation of this country and support it with all my heart.
BTW I am a she...
:-)
Nope. I don’t think that homosexuals or lesbians can even approach the ideal environment for raising children. How you got that out of my post is a mystery to me.
Jesus repeatedly taught men to judge rightly, insisting they "judge with righteous judgment" (John 7:24) and He praised a man who "rightly judged" (Luke 7:43). Paul shamed the Corinthian Christians because there was no one among them willing to "judge the smallest matters" (1 Cor. 6:2). As the Apostle wrote, "He who is spiritual judges all things" for "we have the mind of Christ" (1Cor. 2:15-16).
The notion that judgment is wrong is a ludicrous one. Should child-molesters escape condemnation? Should rapists be free from criticism? Should society refrain from judging those arrested for murder? Should we call evil good? Or would that be a judgment too?
"Judge not" is the prayer of those who want to hide light under a basket. The cliché describes salt which has lost its flavor, which no longer seasons or preserves. Those seduced by this terrible lie are taken out of the game. As spectators on the sidelines, they only watch the spiritual battle. But they are in a comfort zone. Apathy is the craving. "Judge not" is the mantra for shirking responsibility.
Borrowing characters from C. S. Lewis, imagine this dialogue between a junior demon named Wormwood and his wicked uncle Screwtape. This fiendish exchange could have occurred a century ago.
Wormwood: Believers have so many weapons at their disposal. It is difficult to neutralize them. It takes a huge effort just to slow the work of a single Christian.
Screwtape: Your one-on-one approach is inefficient. This is the age of Madison Avenue and mass marketing. If you can undermine their whole group at once, then youve accomplished something.
Wormwood: Unfortunately, Im not highly productive. In the time it takes me to frustrate one believer, I could be tempting a dozen heathens.
Screwtape: Dont lose heart, Wormwood. We are implementing a plan to impair the whole Church with a single ploy.
Wormwood: I dont see how that will be possible. The Christians that Ive seen are dedicated to warning others about hell. Its all I can do just to get one of them distracted for a short time.
Screwtape: We are going to use their Leaders own words.
Wormwood: No! Please dont. Dont even joke about using His words. I cant take it.
Screwtape: If youre ever going to grow up to be an effective demon, youre going to have to learn to use the Enemys words against Him.
Wormwood: It just seems so dangerous. Which words are you going to use?
Screwtape: "Judge not!"
Wormwood: I dont understand why He would tell them not to judge. Thats confusing. He commanded His followers to rebuke, admonish and judge hundreds of times in His Book. And thats what theyre out there doing. And I might add, its causing me no end of grief.
Screwtape: When their Leader said those words, He was speaking to hypocrites. "Judge not you hypocrite," as He said later in the same paragraph.
Wormwood: Yeah, but how are we going to use "Judge not" to neutralize the whole Church?
Screwtape: We are going to get them to ignore the fact that He was talking to hypocrites. He said that hypocrites should not judge, at least not until they stop doing the wrong deed themselves. But we are going to make them think that none of them should judge.
Wormwood: Thats brilliant if you can pull it off, that is. I mean, if we can get them to stop judging, then they wont rebuke the wicked. And they wont be able to admonish those who are sexually immoral.
Screwtape: It is even more brilliant than you realize. If we can seduce Christians into following the instructions for hypocrites, we will turn them into hypocrites. Its like government workers who follow foolish rules so precisely they are transformed from human beings into bureaucrats; drones who mindlessly dispense red tape regardless of the misfortune they cause. The slave who willingly obeys his master, begins to conform to the master. If believers willingly submit to an instruction for hypocrites, they will conform to hypocrisy. Eventually, with a little evil luck, we might stop them from confronting unbelievers altogether because, as you know Wormwood, to confront requires judging. And if they dont judge unbelievers, they are hypocrites, professing the Gospel but denying its power.
Wormwood: Ha, ha. Im excited. When do we start?
Screwtape: Everything is underway already. Just do your part.
Wormwood: And that is ?
Screwtape: Make sure your targets read as little of the Book as possible. Dont get too worried if they stick to their favorite twenty cliché verses. But make sure they remain ignorant of most of the Word.
Wormwood: Master, you are brilliant.
Screwtape: You can call me Master if you want, but dont let the boss hear you.
A lie paralyzed the Church. To abhor evil, someone must first judge evil. God instructs men against "hypocrisy" commanding them to "abhor what is evil" (Rom. 12:9). Thus, unable to judge, and unaccustomed to abhorrence, Christians en masse become hypocrites when they obey the Hypocrites Golden Rule. For "judge not" (Mat. 7:1-5) is simply a hypocrites application of do unto others as you would have them do unto you (Mat. 7:12). "For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged" (Mat. 7:2). Judge others as you would have them do unto you inverted is Judge not if you do not want to be judged. Therefore the hypocrite does not judge. As Jesus said, "Judge not you hypocrite" (Mat. 7:1, 5 KJV; Ezek. 16:52).
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credits: Denver Baptist Church
C'mon LJ, you're smarter than that. My feelings on the above are clearly visible in the very example I gave you about the photographer who was sued by the gay couple in New Mexico. That is the homosexual agenda, and I repeat from my earlier post, it must be stopped.
I asked you if your were a representative of GLAAD, you didn’t respond, just like you didn’t respond to your claim “born that way” or why homosexual “parents” turn out paraphilic children at an exponential rate than their population.
How could anyone assume you were not from GLAAD defending the honor of your Sodomite friends on a thread against the homosexual agenda?
More criticism of those criticizing the evil and destructive homosexual agenda.
What do you think of homosexuals in the military, btw?
Thankyou sunshine...yes, the truth is sometimes hard to face, which is why you see so much changing of the subject to stuff about zots, JimRob, the 1st amendment, words that a Freeper uses....
Anything but the issue at hand.
Yeah, one little example.
I’ve read your comments over the years.
Yes, from asking him to support "born that way" and it's "genetic" to when confronted he said it's the "parent's fault".
It's about supporting the honor of his Sodomite friends for sure, a coping mechanism indeed.
Anything but the issue at hand.
Just reading through this thread, it is so easy to spot. I admire you for continually directing the conversation right back to where it should be:) You rock!
And they have no honor. I refuse to be part of the pc crowd. This country has already fallen too far into the abyss. I'm not the type of person to yell epithets @ homosexuals, try to embarass them in public, beat them up, or anything else. I'm just not going to accept their lifestyle. By accepting them, I'm giving a nod to their lifestyle.....not gonna happen.
INDEED. INDEED.
However, I think that the globalists are keenly aware that such will trash culture and society.
They have been quite diligent students of history. They have plenty of examples of culture and social structures being shredded by such forces and values.
I think they are doing it deliberately.
There are convincing sources which indicate two things in this ball park:
1. That the globalist elites engage in such activities themselves . . . a la purportedly the Bohemian Grove in CA. I think there’s likely truth in that as the Bible indicates that the Anti-Christ will have no affection for women.
2. That the globalist elites have been setting factions against factions in their efforts to shred our Constitution as well as our social fabric and way of life for decades. They NEED to do so to the USA in order to make raising up the tyrannical global government MORE OVERTLY on the world stage easier and more practically doable in a shorter time.
Praise God for JimRob’s stand on such matters. May God bless him 100 fold for such values, such stands and such steadfastness on such matters.
THANK YOU JIM.
imho.
I would think you could add the below to your list of things that really tick God off.
In the KJV "detestable" is "abomination"
Now personally, "Abomination" sure sounds like "ObamaNation" to me.
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