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Seattle Police Release Dashcam Video Of Woodcarver's Shooting
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Posted on 12/17/2010 9:51:53 PM PST by Orange1998

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To: Cap'n Crunch

http://www.textfiles.com/law/mar90_6.law

Officers can be personally held liable and sued.


281 posted on 12/18/2010 11:00:37 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch (Rush Limbaugh, the Winston Churchill of our time)
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To: dragnet2

There’s a link. Cops can be held personally accountable and sued.

Don’t trust me if you don’t want to.


282 posted on 12/18/2010 11:02:29 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch (Rush Limbaugh, the Winston Churchill of our time)
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To: dragnet2

Last column of the article I just posted.

CONCLUSION

The threat of personal liability is one of many risks
associated with the law enforcement profession. An officer’s
discretionary decision to arrest or search inevitably increases
the risk of a subsequent lawsuit. While this risk can be
minimized by comprehensive departmental policies, thorough
training, and attentive managerial controls, officers ultimately
have a personal responsibility to insure that their conduct
conforms to constitutional requirements. The qualified immunity
defense does not excuse clearly unconstitutional or offensive
police misconduct. It does, however, offer generous protection
to conscientious officers who make objectively reasonable
mistakes. The availability of a qualified immunity defense
should be encouragement to responsible officers that they can
perform their vital law enforcement functions without a constant
fear of personal liability.


283 posted on 12/18/2010 11:04:46 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch (Rush Limbaugh, the Winston Churchill of our time)
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To: Cap'n Crunch
It's due to cops like you I tell people don't ever call the cops unless your being attacked by AIDs infected cannibals...

Deceitful cops and other government agents can ruin your life in the blink of an eye.

Leave the cop calling for the old ladies that need baby sitting.. ...It's better to avoid them if at all possible.

284 posted on 12/18/2010 11:05:18 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit.)
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To: Cap'n Crunch

1. The story begs a followup - it’s not over yet.
2. They’re going after a wage garnishment - not his life, savings, home, etc. In other words, the proxy is the city.
3. The officer is not being sued - the city is - but the city is attempting to default onto its employee the officer - which quite frankly is suspicious. In my opinion the officer should turn around and sue the city as well.
4. Hinton himself acknowledges that he is suing the city - and wasn’t expecting if fall upon the officer. In order to sue you have to name the parties involved - in this case the officer and the city that employs them. That goes without saying.

Like I said Cap’n Crunch...read!!!

=8-)


285 posted on 12/18/2010 11:05:52 AM PST by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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To: Cap'n Crunch

“Might not have a constituional duty, but guess who still gets sued and GOES TO JAIL for not doing his duty?”

You know you were possibly believable until you said, “GOES TO JAIL” caps added by me. If the cop ignors this guy and he goes down the street and commits mass murder the cop is NOT going to jail. You take all your credibility away by claiming otherwise.


286 posted on 12/18/2010 11:13:01 AM PST by JLS (Democrats: People who won't even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day.)
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To: dragnet2

Oh, since I could only produce one instance of a cop losing his *home* that means it doesn’t, or can’t happen? I guess 30K is pocket change?

Here, maybe this will appease you.

A cop I know had to sell 2 of his houses to cover a lawsuit when he was not covered by the citys insurance. He was found GUILTY and ordered to pay 2 MILLION DOLLARS by the court, even though the incident stemmed from an on duty incident.

The reason more cops are not held personally liable is the city has the deep pockets and lawyers prefer big money over cop chump change.

But the times they are a changin’. The facts is the facts, cops can, and are, and will be in the future, sued for actions and inactions, while on or off duty. They can be held personally accountable and lose their own property, money, etc. in these lawsuits.

Have enough hairs been split now?


287 posted on 12/18/2010 11:13:18 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch (Rush Limbaugh, the Winston Churchill of our time)
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To: Cap'n Crunch

You’re a fraud..


288 posted on 12/18/2010 11:14:07 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit.)
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To: ladyvet
He was deaf in one ear as well. Wasn't exactly a "model" citizen, but all of his "offenses" mostly revolved around his serial vagrancy.

4 shots in the back? Rooky cop?

Bad shoot. No excuses for this one...

289 posted on 12/18/2010 11:16:35 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: Dead Corpse
4 shots in the back?

Four shots in the right side.

290 posted on 12/18/2010 11:17:55 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: Cap'n Crunch
A cop I know had to sell 2 of his houses

Cops with two homes I believe... ...

I know cops that make $175,000 per year..Other places they are retiring millionaires...

I know others that retired a 47 years old earning $80,000 per YEAR in government retirement pensions for the rest of their lives! Firefighters too...lol

Ya can't make this stuff up...

291 posted on 12/18/2010 11:20:11 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit.)
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To: Irenic

It should.


292 posted on 12/18/2010 11:23:54 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: JLS

Is it out of the realm of possibility? I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility for a cop to go to jail for not taking action when a ‘mass murderer’ walks down the street killing people in front of him. He should. And the people here would certainly be calling for it.

Perhaps I was a bit loose with my language, I admit to that.

I have seen a number of cops I work with go to jail, for their actions. It is possible that they could go for their inactions as well.

But, it is a fact that officers can be held personally responsible and liable. And as I said before, the reason more officers aren’t held personally responsible is most act within the scope of their duties, and, lawyers want the cities to pay, they have the money, the individual cop, not so much.

I’m not willing to risk being personally sued (as several officers on my dept. may be now).

Lastly, shame on me for using some flippant language on a website chock full of people who hate the police.

Lesson learned by me.


293 posted on 12/18/2010 11:25:21 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch (Rush Limbaugh, the Winston Churchill of our time)
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To: dragnet2

Never assume deceit when stupidity isn’t ruled out. It’s unfair to the stupid.


294 posted on 12/18/2010 11:27:57 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: dragnet2

It’s due to cops like you I tell people don’t ever call the cops unless your being attacked by AIDs infected cannibals...

Deceitful cops and other government agents can ruin your life in the blink of an eye.

Leave the cop calling for the old ladies that need baby sitting.. ...It’s better to avoid them if at all possible.

Great advice. don’t even call if your being attacked by aids infected cannibals, since now that I know I have no duty to protect you and won’t lose a dime if I don’t, well, what the heck. I’ll just retire in a year, draw my 100K a year pension and go fishing.


295 posted on 12/18/2010 11:30:31 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch (Rush Limbaugh, the Winston Churchill of our time)
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To: rogue yam

Well, the guy repeatedly alleged that cops get their homes seized as a result of civil suits, clearly implying this as a result of on the job actions such as bad shoots, excessive force etc...Yet he could not provide a single link to support that.


296 posted on 12/18/2010 11:30:51 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit.)
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To: kralcmot

Insanity!


297 posted on 12/18/2010 11:31:00 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: WaterBoard
Birks attourney is wrong. Report said knife was closed when they found it.

Have a care Citizens. Things will get worse before they start getting better again...

298 posted on 12/18/2010 11:33:49 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: Cap'n Crunch
I have no duty to protect you

Oh please...If ya protected people, there wouldn't be any crime...lol

As it is, the gangsters are controlling half the cities, the state, city and county insiders themselves are corrupt to the bone, all within a country crawling with tens of millions of illegal aliens...

You guys are doing a great job protecting us!

:o

299 posted on 12/18/2010 11:37:40 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit.)
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To: School of Rational Thought; Cap'n Crunch

>>....So, like I said, I’m witholding judgement until I see the reason for the officer’s stop. If he had a legitimate reason for stopping Mr. Williams, then what unfolded may be ruled justified. If not, then he will have a hard time not facing charges.
>
>Whoa! The reason for the stop is irrelevant. Whether the officer’s life was in danger is relevant. Are you suggesting premeditation?

In the video there’s something in the officer’s hand when he passes in front of his dash-cam, it’s too blurry for me to make out but in posts 225 & 226 Cap’n Crunch, who previously claimed to be a police officer, said it *IS* the officer’s sidearm. If it is then that would be HIGHLY indicative that this IS indeed premeditated murder.


300 posted on 12/18/2010 11:38:43 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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