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Lt. Col. Lakin sentenced
The News Examiner ^ | 12-17-10 | Linda Bentley

Posted on 12/17/2010 6:27:27 AM PST by FS11

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To: FS11

Be still my throbbing heart!


41 posted on 12/17/2010 8:19:48 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 694 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: FS11
Let it suffice to say that if BO does not resign, he will be legally removed.

The birther graveyard is overflowing with arrogant predictions of imminent justice for the usurper...over 2 years worth.

We'll add yours to the collection.

42 posted on 12/17/2010 8:27:16 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: FS11; All

It's just my opinion, but in allowing a decorated military officer with eighteen years of honorable service to swing over this issue, Mr. Obama has -- in the very sense of the phrase -- proved himself to be a "domestic enemy". By turning a blind eye, he has made a political prisoner of one of our own. Again, just my opinion, but that is conduct unbefitting an officer and most especially the CiC. No one in the military can trust Obama to have his back. Lakin is a hero; Obama ... not so much.


43 posted on 12/17/2010 8:29:12 AM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: FS11

Smells like treason to me how about everyone else?


44 posted on 12/17/2010 8:34:26 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: null and void

The requirements for Standing and the procedure for bringing BO to justice are fully explained in these articles.

http://www.constitution.org/duepr/standing/winter_standing.htm

http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html

http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html


45 posted on 12/17/2010 8:36:17 AM PST by FS11
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To: yldstrk

I’ve got the picture. Orders are presumed to be legal, and it is up to the person disobeying them to show that they were illegal.

So if it were a known fact that Obama was no longer President, THEN his orders would be illegal and could be ignored.

But under the UCMJ, passed by Congress and used by all Presidents, it is the responsibility of the person disobeying the orders to show that he KNEW them to be illegal at the time he disobeyed them. There is no room for, “I had suspicions, so I disobeyed....”

The problem is that Lakin had no evidence. You don’t get to disobey, and then use the court to try to find evidence. And by Lakin’s own admission, his legal counsel told him the orders were legal.

So Lakin had no grounds to stand on. During my 25 years in, there were several times I refused to obey an order. Each time, I told my boss that if he put it into writing and ran it by legal for their review, I’d obey. And each time, my boss backed down because he knew the order to be illegal.

But you don’t get to pick and choose. If Lakin believed no order was legal because Obama wasn’t really the President, then he was obligated to disobey ALL orders - not just deployment orders. In fact, he was obligated to resign, since Congress and the Courts are all content that Obama is, in fact, the President of the USA.

If you disagree, I suggest you immediately start disobeying all laws passed since 20 Jan 2009, since they were passed without ever being sent to a REAL President for review. And I hope you find a good lawyer to minimize your resulting time in jail...


46 posted on 12/17/2010 8:40:14 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: so_real

It’s just my opinion, but in allowing a decorated military officer with eighteen years of honorable service to swing over this issue, Mr. Obama has — in the very sense of the phrase — proved himself to be a “domestic enemy”... No one in the military can trust Obama to have his back...

43 posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 10:29:12 AM by so_real


I agree. BO has no way out but resignation or legal removal.


47 posted on 12/17/2010 8:40:34 AM PST by FS11
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To: FS11

So...why haven’t you started your Grand Jury and brought Obama to his knees?

And why haven’t YOU started to publicly disobey all laws passed since 20 Jan 2009?


48 posted on 12/17/2010 8:43:07 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Smells like treason to me how about everyone else?

44 posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 10:34:26 AM by ExTexasRedhead


Certainly and remember what the penalty is for Treason. Hence resignation is a much better choice than legal removal.


49 posted on 12/17/2010 8:43:13 AM PST by FS11
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To: null and void

Never. Never voluntarily.

Even if it shows he is a citizen, if the facts as asserted are accurate, he is not, and can never be, a Natural Born Citizen.

Regardless of the physical location of his birth, he claims that both of his parents were not American citizens at the time of his birth.

Problem is, even though we “know” this, without the release of his true and accurate birth certificate, we can’t “prove” it in a court of law.


Obama published a book called “Dreams From My Father” in 1995, twelve years before he announced his run for the presidency, which detailed his father’s Kenyan birth.
The internet posted scanned copy of his Certificate of Live Birth states that his father’s race is “African.”
In any Court of Law, it would be stipulated without objection that Barack Hussein Obama Senior was born in Kenya. The issue is whether that really does disqualify Obama from natural born citizen status.
One court, the Indiana Court of Appeals has already ruled that “persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born citizens” regardless of the citizenship of their parents.”—Ankeny et. al. v The Governor of Indiana.
The factcheck.org scanned image copy of Obama’s COLB was accepted by the Court in legal briefs in Ankeny.

Now that Obama’s good friend (who actually knew Obama’s father st the University of Hawai’i) Neil Abercrombie is the new Democrat Governor of Hawai’i, I’m betting a copy of his long form birth ceritificate will be printed up to say whatever Obama wants it to say.


50 posted on 12/17/2010 8:44:20 AM PST by jamese777
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To: Mr Rogers

You must have drunk the kool aid


51 posted on 12/17/2010 8:55:07 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: jamese777

An Indiana court of appeals ruling is NOT controlling precedent, i.e., no Courts in any of the other States are controlled by an Indiana court of appeals ruling and any said Court can disregard said ruling. Indeed even Courts in Indiana can challenge the Indiana court of appeals ruling before the Indiana Supreme Court.


52 posted on 12/17/2010 8:56:02 AM PST by FS11
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To: Mr Rogers

When did you have your breakthrough?


53 posted on 12/17/2010 8:56:30 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

You must have drunk the kool aid

51 posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 10:55:07 AM by yldstrk


mester rogers is drowning in it.


54 posted on 12/17/2010 8:57:22 AM PST by FS11
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To: Mr Rogers

The requirements for Standing and the procedure for bringing BO to justice are fully explained in these articles.

http://www.constitution.org/duepr/standing/winter_standing.htm

http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html

http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html


55 posted on 12/17/2010 9:04:04 AM PST by FS11
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To: FS11

An Indiana court of appeals ruling is NOT controlling precedent, i.e., no Courts in any of the other States are controlled by an Indiana court of appeals ruling and any said Court can disregard said ruling. Indeed even Courts in Indiana can challenge the Indiana court of appeals ruling before the Indiana Supreme Court.


American presidential elections are decided on a state-by-state accumulation of electoral college votes. If the Ankeny decision had invalidated Obama’s Indiana electoral college votes, a cascade of other states would have followed suit.
While Ankeny is not controlling precedent, it is one more Court decision than has ruled that the citizenship of one’s parents matters in determining natural born citizen status for a person born in the United States.


56 posted on 12/17/2010 9:06:43 AM PST by jamese777
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To: yldstrk
"The American people will benefit from what LTC Lakin has done—the American people are now even more certain this person in the White House has no qualification to be there. THE TRUTH WILL OUT WE HAVE A RIGHT EVEN AN OBLIGATION TO DEMAND PROOF THE CONSTITUTION MATTERS"

I'm am in full support of Lakin and New, you misunderstand me, I think. I do not believe either of them will be pardoned or reinstated, their only rewards will await in heaven. This world has become too corrupt and will only get worse as time goes on.

57 posted on 12/17/2010 9:12:45 AM PST by SENTINEL (Mormonism...from Ezra Taft Benson to Reid and Romney in only one generation.)
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To: jamese777

While Ankeny is not controlling precedent...

56 posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 11:06:43 AM by jamese777


Thank you for admitting ankeny is NOT controlling precedent.


58 posted on 12/17/2010 9:16:42 AM PST by FS11
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“You must have drunk the kool aid”

No, but I spent a large part of my career deployed, finishing with a trip to Afghanistan in 2007. I have little use for people who refuse to deploy based on internet rumors. I saw the same thing with GWB (selected, not elected) and anthrax shots (gonna kill us all, don’t you know).

Lakin wanted to use the internet rumor that Obama was born in Kenya to get out of deploying. How that differs from the folks refusing to believe GWB was President, or by refusing to take anthrax shots, I don’t know.


59 posted on 12/17/2010 9:28:46 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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“The requirements for Standing and the procedure for bringing BO to justice are fully explained in these articles.”

Yes, I know you surf the net. Now, what are you DOING to convene your own grand jury and bring Obama to his knees? What Grand Jury have YOU convened, and how are those arrest warrants on Obama coming?


60 posted on 12/17/2010 9:32:06 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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