Wiesenthal Center tells Jews not to travel to Sweden

The Jerusalem Post ^ | December 16, 2010 | BENJAMIN WEINTHAL AND GIL SHEFLER

[VOA]

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I have family living in Malmo and the surrounding region, as well
as many family friends.
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If the report in The Los Angeles Times a few years ago about Malmo
being overrun by Muslims is true...
G-d help your family and friends in that area.

IIRC, Maalmo was a favorite place because the Muslims can easily hope a boat
to Denmark, thus easily criss-crossing Europe at will.

[rmlew]

I agree that many Muslims overseas may wish to create a sharia state but there is little evidence that American Muslims wish to do so and those that do have had precisely zero success so far.

Start Paying attention to the Muslim Brotherhood in America. As for no evidence, you are confused. Orthodox Islam calls for this. The debate between "Moderates" and "Extremists" is over tactics, whether to use violence, violence, coresion, and conversion, or just conversion and propoganda (Dawa). Think of it as Mensheviks and Bolsheviks; bioth are communist.

Compare this with the historical position of Jews in American society where a disproportionately high number of American Jews have actively set out to undermine the constitution of the United States
How many did so as Jews, as opposed to former Jews who belong to the antisemitic atheist cult known as Communism?

I’m not just talking about having liberal viewpoints I’m talking about the deliberate subversion of the United States both through treasonous dealings with hostile foreign powers and through domestic terrorism (something that seems to have been conveniently airbrushed out of the record).
I raise you the San Patricanos traitors in the Mexican War, the NY Draft Riots of 1863, and most urban machines from 1850 to 1940.

Even those who didn’t get involved in terrorism and treason went on to undermine society in ways which is not comparable with that of US Muslims or the Irish. Think about all the institutions most commonly blamed by conservatives for subverting the US; the media, Hollywood, the courts, Wall Street big banks, university campuses, well they ain’t exactly overstaffed with Mohammeds and Hassans and do seem to attract a disproportionately high number of another ethnic group who always seem to get a free pass among conservatives that Muslims don’t.

And how many of the perpetrators are called such for breaking codes that the West got from the Jews? How many are either openly at war with Judaism or subvert it with "liberal Judaism"?

PS. Take another look at universities and Wall Street. Muslims are a protected class in universities with anti-Zionism and increasingly antisemitism being the norm. Wall Street Firms are all setting up Sharia-compliant funds and companies like Fox are being bought by Islamic nations through Sovereign Wealth funds.

[SJackson]

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[BlackVeil]

Their fate is sealed, and the tragedy is the refusal of other Jews to notice.

Alarmist. This reminds me of how about five years ago, there was talk of how French Jews were under terrible threat, and would all have to flee. Nothing happened - indeed, the JDL in France is so strong that they can openly vandalise Arab bookstores.

[PotatoHeadMick]

“I raise you...”

So against a massively consistent and indeed transgenerational history of blatantly treasonous behaviour and frequently subversive violence against American society and the Constitution by a hugely disproportionate section of one of the most educated, privileged and wealthy sections of the US nation you raise the behaviour of a few hundred barely literate peasants who had hardly staggered off the boats a hundred a fifty years ago.

I hope you don’t actually play poker in real life.

[dennisw]

Alarmist. This reminds me of how about five years ago, there was talk of how French Jews were under terrible threat, and would all have to flee. Nothing happened - indeed, the JDL in France is so strong that they can openly vandalise Arab bookstores.

Got any JDL examples on that?
Jews are being terrorized in various European cities. You should go to one like Malmo and put on a yarmulke and see how it works out for you. But no......you're sitting on your arse in comfy, far away from it all, Australia

One bookstore attack compared to hundreds of physical attacks on Jews. You are despicable

[rmlew]

Alarmist. This reminds me of how about five years ago, there was talk of how French Jews were under terrible threat, and would all have to flee. Nothing happened - indeed, the JDL in France is so strong that they can openly vandalise Arab bookstores.
1. It's not like French Jews have been murdered of Banlieu burn regularly.
2. Did you see me call for terrorism or vandalism? I abhor it and denounce such actions.
3. Do you really want to compare this to the dozens of Jewish stores in Malmo vandalized each year and the police who refuse to prosecute the "children"?

[rmlew]

So against a massively consistent and indeed transgenerational history of blatantly treasonous behaviour and frequently subversive violence against American society and the Constitution by a hugely disproportionate section of one of the most educated, privileged and wealthy sections of the US nation you raise the behaviour of a few hundred barely literate peasants who had hardly staggered off the boats a hundred a fifty years ago.
1. Jews don't vote that differently than WASPs in NYC.
2. I noted a 100+ year set of behaviour by the Irish in supporting the left and urban corruption. And I gavea you a link where I discussed Grievance Politics in general in response to an article about the Irish in the UK still supporting immigration.

The treason of the elites and grievance politics afflicts almost every Western Country I know, including those with virtually no Jews.

PS. You may want to read the other person's arguements and supporting data before responding with ad hominem attacks.

[rmlew]

PS. I find it interesting looking at your posting history to find how many times your apologize for jihadi attacks on our troops, minimize Muslim violence, and apologize for it. Yet you attack all Jews in America for treason and subversion. OK.

[PotatoHeadMick]

I don’t attack all Jews, I very carefully phrase my words to make it clear I am referring to a disproportionate section of Jewish America.

I do not “minimise” Muslim violence on the contrary I recognise it for the extreme danger it is, I have never, repeat never, repeat again NEVER!, “apologised” for jihadis.

You are a liar sir, plain and simple, a liar.

[rmlew]

Please address post 28.

I don’t attack all Jews, I very carefully phrase my words to make it clear I am referring to a disproportionate section of Jewish America.
You are correct. I meant to write "Yet you attack a lot of Jews". I was angry and failed to double check my post. Sorry.

I do not “minimise” Muslim violence on the contrary I recognise it for the extreme danger it is, I have never, repeat never, repeat again NEVER!, “apologised” for jihadis.

Lets see.
"Given that left wing Jewish Americans have posed and continue to pose more of a threat to conservative American values and society than Muslims ever have and American Jews were involved in anti-American terrorism long before Muslims were I am often mystified why American conservatives are always so concerned about their fate." Notice that you didn't say some Jews. Also, the razziahs against American shipping as part of the wider Jihad began in 1784.

"One other thing, you might loathe the insurgents, you might hate their religion but could we at least concede that if foreign troops from Asia were occupying the US there might be more than a few American patriots who were prepared to fight the foreigners in exactly the same way the Taliban are?"
No, we would not kill civilians and target certain ethnic groups.

"As for your assertion that Indonesians were not originally Muslim, well since the state of Indonesia was founded in 1945 a majority of its citizens have been Muslim. If you mean the peoples of Java, Sumatera, and Borneo weren’t originally Muslim you are correct but then I’ve got news for you the peoples of any country weren’t originally any religion, the Poles weren’t “originally” Catholic, the Chinese weren’t “originally” Buddhist and the Swedes weren’t “originally” Lutheran so I don’t see what relevance this is to the article."
Notice how yoiu ignore the churches attacked or for that matter Ahmadi Mosques attacked.

" No I am not making some sort of moral equivalence argument. I am being a realist and no, anyone who deliberately targets unarmed civilians is a terrorist plain and simple. However anyone who, untrained, barely armed and with little more than raw guts decides to take his life in his hands and attack fully armed, trained, equipped and supplied professional soldiers who are backed up with airpower and artillery, well I don’t regard such man as a terrorist or murderer no matter how much I want him to lose (I accept that Omar did indeed murder the medic who was trying to help him so this doesn’t apply)."
These are not patriots. If they wanted us to leave, they would help us get rid of Al Qaeda and the Taliban. Instead they follow Mullahs who tell them that 9-11 is a lie and we are there to rape their women and plunder their land. They choose their desolation.

[PotatoHeadMick]

Where in those posts to I “apologise” for jihadis?

[rmlew]

Read my retort to all of them.