Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Pakistan - a rogue state with a rogue army
Sify ^ | 2010-12-04 | Amulya Ganguli

Posted on 12/04/2010 9:06:34 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-27 next last

1 posted on 12/04/2010 9:06:37 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: sukhoi-30mki

US aid fuels dangerous deal in Pakistan

By Selig S. Harrison

June 29, 2010

“WITH ONE hand, Pakistan scoops up its multiplying millions in US aid. With the other, it buys nuclear reactors from China that will give it the capability to add 24 nuclear weapons per year to its estimated existing arsenal of 70 to 90.”

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2010/06/29/us_aid_fuels_dangerous_deal_in_pakistan/


2 posted on 12/04/2010 9:09:47 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sukhoi-30mki

Pakistan will inevitably provide nuclear weapons to al Queda who will undoubtedly use them sadly against us. I hope there is a pit in hell reserved for A.Q. Khan who gave Pakistan its nuclear weapons and then transferred that technology to N. Korea and Iran.


3 posted on 12/04/2010 9:17:47 AM PST by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: The Great RJ

A.Q Khan is a scape goat. There’s no way he could have done all that given that the Pakistani nuclear-missile programme are the Pakistani military’s turf. Even a six-year old knows that you can’t commandeer a military C-130 and fly it to North Korea.

http://members.fortunecity.com/terrorgate/nuclear.htm


4 posted on 12/04/2010 9:21:01 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: The Great RJ

AQK didn’t give Pakistan it’s nukes-the Chicoms did. Khan was an all too willing figurehead for the programme. A celeb-scientist and uber-patriot of sorts.


5 posted on 12/04/2010 9:22:41 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: sukhoi-30mki

BO’s WikiLeaks have not only damaged HC but BO’s WikiLeaks have ruined any chance for a success in Afghanistan similar to President Bush’s success in Iraq.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/03/clinton-apologises-uk-wikileaks

However, the cables are far from being a laughing matter for foreign diplomats in Kabul who fear that the portrayal of the president of Afghanistan, Hamid Karzai, and his government in a deeply unflattering light will lead to a further slump in US-Afghan relations.

Suspicions of tensions were fuelled yesterday when a promised face-to-face meeting between Barack Obama and his Afghan counterpart failed to materialise.

It was called off, US officials said, because of bad weather – making it difficult for helicopters to fly Obama to Kabul from Bagram airbase, where he met troops. A videoconference planned in its place was also dropped, officials said, because of the weather. The two spoke by phone.

Hillary Clinton also phoned the Afghan president to reassure him of US support, but it remains to be seen whether the relationship will be weakened.

US diplomats in Kabul are furious with WikiLeaks, and believe it may have done real damage to the vital relationship.


6 posted on 12/04/2010 9:32:16 AM PST by FS11
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sukhoi-30mki

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2637216/posts

Wikileaks: Obama’s War On America, Target Hillary Clinton
Big Government ^ | 12-3-10 | Pamela Geller

Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 8:27:34 PM by FS11

It could not have escaped any lucid American that it was Hillary who was targeted in this WikiLeaks dump. Make no mistake. Hillary was the target. Julian Assange should be tried before a military tribunal. Instead, he is talking to Time Magazine, demanding that Hillary be fired.

Got that? Once again the criminal media is providing aid and comfort to our enemies. It had to strike you as ironic that the New York Times would not publish the 13,000 Climategate emails because they were “private emails,” but they had no problem with the treason of WikiLeaks.

” After this, no nation will work with us. No nation will trust us. People on the ground will not put their lives and their families’ lives on the line for so reckless and feckless an “ally.”

Who is paying for the WikiLeaks state-of-the-art servers, housed in nuclear bomb shelters? Has anyone checked to see if it was Obama’s puppetmaster, George Soros?

The Telegraph reported that Assange was “warned by ‘inside sources in the White House’ not to return to the US as he could be arrested….US government insiders had informed him about discussions to charge him as a co-conspirator to espionage.”

This Telegraph article is from last August. So after the first WikiLeaks terror attack on America, the President of the United States aided and abetted the enemy’s escape.

This is an impeachable offense. Who is going to defend us from the enemy within? Boehner and Issa better start investigating this in January.”


7 posted on 12/04/2010 9:33:58 AM PST by FS11
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sukhoi-30mki

>As Anne Paterson, the US ambassador in Islamabad, has noted, no amount of aid from Washington will make the army cut its ties with religious extremists.<

.
Hey US, wake up to the realization that you’re dealing with Islam and not people that think in a more conventional way. You’re not up against politics or money, you’re up against an uncontrolled religious emotion that wants to destroy you regardless of any goodwill that you may foster toward it.

For your own survival, read the Koran.


8 posted on 12/04/2010 9:37:40 AM PST by 353FMG (Soon, the peoples of the West will have to choose between ISLAM and their country.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FS11
Do you think the Fool thinks he will run again in 2012?
9 posted on 12/04/2010 9:44:50 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (America can survive fools in office. It cannot long survive the fools who vote for them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: FS11

Karzai is a bigger sock-puppet than obama. Karzai has no power outside of Kabul.


10 posted on 12/04/2010 10:04:55 AM PST by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: FS11

Karzai is a bigger sock-puppet than obama. Karzai has no power outside of Kabul.


11 posted on 12/04/2010 10:06:54 AM PST by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: 353FMG

This is VERY significant. Ambassador Paterson is a close friend of Hillary (they went to school together).


12 posted on 12/04/2010 10:17:03 AM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: sukhoi-30mki

ISI isn’t going to cut its ties to the Taliban because ISI is the Taliban.

And whatever way the diplomats prefer to parse the questions and answers, ISI sponsored and supported the attack on Mumbai. They don’t worry about Indian reprisals because they want war. And anyway, they have always gotten away with this kind of thing before.

These are not people who want to govern in peace, they are not interested in building roads and sewage plants and water filtration systems. They want war, and they’ll have it whether their victims understand it or not. We believe that to have a war you have to have two combatants. But you don’t. All you need is one. The other side can either fight back or be a hapless victim.

The fact that Pakistan has an “official” government doesn’t really change anything. It is Talibanistan. Taliban is a Pakistani project. It goes forward whether India is in Afghanistan or not. So, based on that, India has to take actions that will limit Pakistan’s reach and that means increasing its own reach and influence in the countries surrounding Pakistan, and ultimately doing what it can to undermine the enemies in the Pak government. They will have to be both tough and smart.

Walking on eggshells with Pakistan doesn’t work. Surround them, and work within the country to divide the various factions from one another. Really, the US needs India to play bad cop to our good cop. The only real influence we have in Pakistan is our supposed ability to protect them from big bad India.


13 posted on 12/04/2010 10:21:59 AM PST by marron
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sukhoi-30mki

If it were not for the unpredictability of Pakistan and the fact that they have nukes, we probably would have left Afghanistan long ago.


14 posted on 12/04/2010 10:24:39 AM PST by smokingfrog ( ><{{{{{(0>)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marron

The ISI is a wing of the army. It has no power of its own.

Pakistan and North Korea are very similar in their approach to their neighbours. They have cowed them down with threats of nuclear war and economic ruin. One gets US food aid, the other gets US military aid.


15 posted on 12/04/2010 10:25:39 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: smokingfrog

Keeping the war in Afghanistan running has its advantages for the Pakistani army. For one, there’s an American leash on India. If India threatens military action, the Pakis always have the excuse of pulling out troops from the North-West.

Then there’s the whole issue of military aid and new weaponry. Get US military aid and use your hard currency to buy Chinese weaponry. In 2004, Pakistan was planning to buy about 150 Chinese-built JF-17 fighters. A few years later with US giving F-16s, they have increased their projected purchase to 250 JF-17s.


16 posted on 12/04/2010 10:30:55 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: sukhoi-30mki
In 2004, Pakistan was planning to buy about 150 Chinese-built JF-17 fighters. A few years later with US giving F-16s, they have increased their projected purchase to 250 JF-17s.

Wow.

17 posted on 12/04/2010 10:33:52 AM PST by marron
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: marron

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1809255/posts

Sorry I forgot to mention. They plan to purchase about 40 J-10 fighters from the Chicoms on top of that. Fleece Uncle Sam and beef up the dragon.


18 posted on 12/04/2010 10:40:12 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Kenny Bunk

Do you think the Fool thinks he will run again in 2012?

9 posted on Saturday, December 04, 2010 11:44:50 AM by Kenny Bunk -—————————————————————————————————————————————————
Of course BO is running. He never stops his endless campaign to Destroy America.


19 posted on 12/04/2010 11:20:30 AM PST by FS11
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: sukhoi-30mki
As Anne Paterson, the US ambassador in Islamabad, has noted, no amount of aid from Washington will make the army cut its ties with religious extremists.

India's preception now is that the U.S. is resigned to the Pak Army's nexus with terrorists. India would now probably be forced to devise its own "go-it-alone" strategies to deal with this problem. This will not be in the interests of the U.S.

20 posted on 12/04/2010 12:21:54 PM PST by Moorings
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-27 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson