Secession ball stirs controversy

The SunNews.com ^ | 12-3-2010 | Robert Behre Charleston Post

[bushpilot1]

I was following..and knew you had him in a trap..wish nolu chan..4CJ..stand watie were here to see it..

The subconscious..can be controlled to a limit..with a keyboard..

We give you credit..for bringing NS into the light..

[Red Steel]

NS always wanted the last word no matter what. The dingbat stumbled onto the wrong thread hence zot.

[central_va]

I was following..and knew you had him in a trap

He had ample opportunity to get away....

I can be a real tricky bastard sometimes..

[Salamander]

Deo Vindice, indeed.

[humblegunner]

Merry Metal Christmas!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p54CMth4Jpg&feature=related

Many tracks at link..

[Salamander]

Santa Claws is comin’ to town*.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In3sApWlY1s

[so you better watch out]

:)

*Video certified 100% clown-free

[wardaddy]

I bet they are watching...wish bnblflag could too God bless him..he is missed..it will be a hard Christmas for his surviving family

Merry Christmas

PS...nolu chan..nobody’s fool I tell ya

PSII...don’t forget TexasGOPCapitalist too...is that right?

[rustbucket]

Merry Christmas, non-sequitur, wherever you are, you Kansas redleg. The WBTS threads won't be the same without you. For one thing, they will only be about half as long.

We'll miss your persistence in the face of evidence against your arguments. I've learned history refuting your posts. Goodbye and enjoy your retirement.

Merry Christmas to all!

[mstar]

rust bucket; "Merry Christmas, non-sequitur, wherever you are,"

A Christmas Greeting for "The Coven"

Know it's a blue coven Christmas now your leader, Non S, has fallen. . . but the sh@ter WAS full. . .

try to have a Merry Christmas anyway

[central_va]

Maybe if the Coven Leader lurks awhile, instead of constantly pounding the keyboard, he may actually learn something.

[central_va]

Merry Christmas you pack of Rebels!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Salamander]

What a surrealistic piece of art...I like it...:))

[but Sherman’s head on a stick is what I’d have asked for]

LOL

[mstar]

Thanks CVA, hope you and your family are all having a good Christmas day and . . .

a Merry Christmas to all the FR Rebs!

[wardaddy]

How about this courtesy of HankIII

[Salamander]

Bwahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa!

[rustbucket]

I think what Madison says is compatible with the idea of the Preamble that "We the People" hold ultimate sovreignty. As Madison states later in #39, the Constitution sets up a general government that is not wholly national or federal. This composite concept fits in with the divided sovereignty idea. The prevalent error today makes the general government into a fully sovereign national government, but the other extreme of fully sovereign state government is going too far in the other direction.

Thanks for your reply. Sorry to be so long in responding but I was out of town without a computer on a trip to see family. I've been slowly going back through my pings while celebrating Christmas back at home.

I see that we differ in our interpretation of where sovereignty ultimately resides. But differences of opinion are good. That's how we both learn and flesh out and defend our thoughts.

If the lumpen people of the whole are the ultimate sovereigns, how is it that Hamilton and Jay and the New York Ratification Convention said they could reassume their own governance and that that is consistent with the Constitution? The people of a state couldn't reassume their own governance unless the people of the state were thought to be the ultimate sovereigns.

In ancient Greek city-states, at least in a democracy like Athens, sovereignty was thought to ultimately reside in the male adults of the city-states who were not slaves. In the early United States during the writing of the Constitution, sovereignty was thought to ultimately reside to the separate peoples of the various states, not the lumpen people of the whole country. That is why ratification was submitted to the people in states, not to the populace of the whole country.

Here are some comments about the lumpen people by Justice Thomas (originally posted by 4CJ long ago).

"In addition, it would make no sense to speak of powers as being reserved to the undifferentiated people of the Nation as a whole, because the Constitution does not contemplate that those people will either exercise power or delegate it. The Constitution simply does not recognize any mechanism for action by the undifferentiated people of the Nation."
Justice Thomas, US Term Limits v Thornton, 514 US 779, (1995).

These days politicians like Hillary push for the end of the electoral college. This would, in effect, shift power from the peoples of the individual states to the lumpen mass of the people of the whole country. This would give corrupt political machines in large cities increased power in elections. No thanks. Our Founders were wise in not going that route.

[dixiechick2000]

Backatchya, mstar! I hope you had a wonderful Christmas!

I wish you nothing but the best in the coming New Year!

[x]

So, Mr. Kleagle Klavern Leader ...

Who is surrendering to whom in your picture?

It looks like the rebs are holding up Santa, but maybe his reindeer stared them down and won the day.

[central_va]

I see Santa gave you a new supply of hate pills for Christmas.

[mojitojoe]

HAHA! I hope that you and your family had a wonderful Christmas. FR seems so much cleaner today. :)