Justices turn aside another challenge over Obama's citizenship

CNN ^ | November 30, 2010 5:29 a.m. EST | By Bill Mears, CNN Supreme Court Producer

[bvw]

The first shot of the Civil War was fired on November 21, 1855 in the Kansas Territory, the first killing a few weeks later, on a date that nearly a century later became known as the "Day of Infamy" -- December 6, 1855. John Brown and his militias were major participants in that phase of Civil War. While the outright violence of the conflict suspended for the most part after 1856, the war in other forms continued thereafter.

A positive decision -- a JUST decision in Dred Scott would have ended it. Instead the Courts abandoned Justice for teh pursuit of a vain, yet perfectly processed, legalism of a ruling.

John Brown took over the arsenal at Harper's Ferry in mid-October 1859. Lincoln wasn't elected until November 1860. On April 12th 1861 Confederate General Beauregard ordered the cannons of the newly formed Confederate States to fire on Fort Sumter. That began the "War between the States" -- which ended four years later.

The Civil War, however continued. Perhaps this is the ending of it, with the election of the fraud usurper Obama, the long-term harm of the Dred Scoot ruling is buried and dead.

[OneWingedShark]

Other than privately employing people how can ANY member of the Congress DIRECTLY increase employment?

[Steve Van Doorn]

"Ever notice the media hardly ever reports when a eligibility case is filed, but only when one is dismissed?"

Because each case scares them the truth will win out and it makes us look bad.

[Walts Ice Pick]

My question was merely a rhetorical one. Of course, misrepresenting one's qualification for the presidency would qualify as a high crime or misdemeanor.

It all really depends on 1) whether Speaker Boehner believes the claim that Obama lacks qualifications, and 2) whether Speaker Boehner is afraid that he won't feel bold enough to actually impeach if a committee were to prove that Obama lacks qualifications.

[Diogenesis]

[OneWingedShark]

Just to be clear you HAVE to interpret the Constitution in order to follow it.
The problem is that the courts have been redefining-and-then-interpreting the Constitution.

[Undocumented_capitalist]

1. Reduce stupid regulations
2. Cut taxes on businesses who employ people. Most effective
would be 50% tax credit for every employee hired and retained for a year.
3. Work for reducing obstacles in other countries for imports from US.
4. Make capital gains tax adjusted for inflation.

And I have perhaps 50 more, but this is a good start to increase employment.

[Undocumented_capitalist]

Re-read post #8 to which I was responding.

[presently no screen name]

It distracts from his real flaws (ie, socialist America-hater)

IT DISTRACTS? LOL! It proves it!

and smears the conservative movement as a bunch of conspiracy theorists akin to the 911 truthers.

That's an old MSM talking point and 'your concern' for the conservative movement is equivalent to my caring about your bowel movement.

In fact, I'm convinced that Obama won't show us his "real" birth certificate precisely because it baits people and distracts some conservatives from more worthwhile pursuits.

In order to convince, one needs credibility.
And your reason is so laughable, I wouldn't be surprised if you need a diaper change right now yourself.

The birthers have lost case after case over this. Time to give it up and fight Obama on ideas, not speculation.

You fight your man with your empty ideas that go along w/his.

[skr]

Doesn’t the presence of the eligibility requirement in the Constitution make it a legal question? It’s not up to the states to change that without an amendment, as it is for a federal office.

[Iron Munro]

Before 2012 I just want to see at least one state enact a law requiring Presidential candidates to produce authentic documents proving their eligibility to serve as president before they can be certified as legitimate candidates in the state.

All it will take is one state to put an end to the iligitimate career of this poser.

[Truth29]

It is clear there will be no justice through the justice system. Each and every case has been and will be turned away. This is a war and this avenue of attack is a dead end. We are still trying the ballot box and will see what happens in 2012. The house GOP needs to stand their ground and stop the Obama agenda at every opportunity. 2012 will show whether the ballot box is still a viable tool and whether the GOP will continue representing conservatives.

[saltus]

You are one of the few who gets it.

Obviously, Obummer has made a cost:benefit analysis. He gets zero benefit from releasing anything-—the people who dislike him will not change no matter what he releases. He gains nothing. The cost to him is also zero. (Mostly it is state courts who bear the cost.)

Obi gets benefits: Orly is shown as a nut case, all the challenges are rejected—thus building a case that future cases are also frivolous. And it diverts attention and dollars.

By any calculation, Obi has played this well.

[sten]

If we have to show our ID when pulled over or trying to get on an airline... Then he should be expected to do the same, and more... Since it’s Constitutionally mandated

[GnL]

Government should not be creating jobs (we have enough federal employees already). On the other hand, Congress did take an oath to defend the Constitution.

p.s. Government only “creates” jobs by getting the hell out of the way.

[Walts Ice Pick]

Re-read post #8 to which I was responding.

Yeah, I knew you were responding to post # 8 and I knew I was responding to post #27.

My only point is that I can conceive of a Congress that can 1) work to create jobs in the country and 2) conduct relatively simple investigations, even at the same time. ;-)

[CMAC51]

Actually,I was trying to point out that impeachment would not be necessary. If the house found him ineligible, then he would immediately not be the president. No trial by the senate would be necessary.

[Non-Sequitur]

There was no Civil War.

It was more properly termed "War of Southern Rebellion">

Lincoln invaded the South.

That's like saying FDR invaded Germany and Japan. That is technically correct but it wouldn't have happened if Japan and Germany hadn't started the war. Likewise with the rebellion.

Loss of Southern money going up North was the reason.

Loss of Southern money going up North was the reason why the Davis regime started a war? How dumb is that?

[AmericanVictory]

Yeah, what’s with the notion of adherence to the Constitution anyway? Good thinking!

[OneWingedShark]

Those are all indirect; I asked for direct ways to increase employment.