Glenn Beck: They’re lying to us about the mystery contrail

Hot Air ^ | 11/19/2010 | Right Scoop

[1000 silverlings]

not to mention all the ships obama had with him on the India trip, did he fear someone shooting him down?

[Quix]

Sorry . . . pedantic . . . someone who tends to stress points of learning others consider trivial . . . doggedly, often boringly teachy . . .

Though to be fair . . . pedantic, like beauty, tends to be in the eye of the beholder.

You are a treasure.

LUB

[Quix]

Well put.

Thx.

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

And you know this for sure?

If anyone sounds whacky, you do, and add gullibility to your list, pal.

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Don’t forget rudeness ...

[Quix]

There was some hint from some puzzle piece sources that he was ‘sequestered’ there for the puppet masters’ reasons, not OThuga’s choice.

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

You forgot the most likely explanation to look at by far:

Many many many knowledgeable,

[WELL TRAINED AND EXPERIENCED] freepers who saw or have seen similar . . .

[MANY 100’S OF MISSILE SHOTS]

who state it was UNDOUBTEDLY a MISSILE.

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These people have given all of us here the benefit of hundreds of years of experience and personal work and observation.

I believe what they have brought to the discussion.

[TigersEye]

LOLOL I was trying to remain blissfully ignorant of its meaning so that I would have nothing negative I could think about you. But you are too honest about yourself to allow me that delusion. Soooo, honest to a fault as well. That’s two strikes, FRiend. (snickering)

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

There is no question that it was a missile.

The question is whose missile. (US or China)

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I absolutely agree.

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

From your link about contrail-science:

Updated monthly.

Search Query 1 Month Increase
1 chemtrails airplanes 1.97%
2 chemtrail 1950 1.60%

and

1 Month Decline
1 dark line contrails 2.14%
2 science of chemtrails 1.95%

Interesting, eh? Talk about chemtrails Whacko ...

“chemtrails” ...!!!

Unknown owners!

Hmmmmm

Working really hard to deceive the sheep ... if they can.

[Quix]

Those are certainly my seDiments.

[Quix]

Ah welllll . . .

By God’s mercy, there’s probably some loveable things about me that you can still choose to focus on . . .

I only recall loveable things about you! LOL.

Thx for your kind exchanges.

[higgmeister]

The USA claims 24 contiguous miles as of 1999 according to what I was able to find. Before that, it was the old traditional 3 miles and then 12 miles.

[higgmeister]

It is reasonable to assume that the U.S. Navy has at least a partial ability track the movements of Chinese submarines. Furthermore, U.S. early warning satellites and radars (such as PAVE PAWS radar at Beale AFB in northern California) provide the U.S. military with the ability to immediately detect, pinpoint, and track missile launches at sea. The Navy probably also still has a formidable anti-submarine warfare capability that would allow it to quickly locate and kill hostile submarines.

Good grief! Our US Navy does not preemptively sink foreign vessels in international waters. That would be an act of war. Even after the launch, risk assessment would indicate a controllable risk, since the missile arced away from US territory.

Additionally, our military radar data could not be made public because it might reveal our capabilities to any potential enemy. I was the person that posted the existance of Pave Paws and now you try to use it to aggregate into your deceptions. You have no clue what you talk about and are so transparent that those with some knowledge must wonder what your game really is.

[higgmeister]

Here's an example of light reflecting off a small area of a jet. This is in real time. As light reflects off different areas, it can appear to be flickering.

It boggles the mind how you could believe anything on that Art Bell junk-science website. Con Man Trail Science attempts to compare reflected light from an aircraft at a few thousand feet up to a boosting missile at 40 miles. They should try to compare it to the Moon! That is also reflected light. Oh wait, that might over excite all of the bats.

[EternalVigilance]

We see hundreds of jets pass over out here in flyover country where I live every day. Often there are numerous contrails visible at a given moment.

Many times at sunset or just after I’ve seen sunlight reflect off the aircraft.

Personally, I don’t need anybody’s website to tell me what this quite obviously was: an airplane.

[SaraJohnson]

Here is the google search on the cruise liner and you can dig around and read about it. Witness testimony of what happened is the most intersting and informative.

http://www.google.com/search?q=disabled+cruise+ship&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1&rlz=1I7RNTN_en

[SaraJohnson]

Thanks for sprucing up my post, Quix. :)

[Names Ash Housewares]

That is the assessment of a fellow that keeps track of Vandenberg launches for a mailing list and web site. When I post here for folks to look for a launch that is where I get my info. Sounds more then reasonable to me. A Chinese sub is very unlikely. An airliner is extremely obvious explaination.

When you figure what my “game” is please let me know.
I had no clue I was playing one and it sounds pretty cool.

[Outlaw Woman]

Thank you very much Sara!

[SaraJohnson]

not to mention all the ships obama had with him on the India trip, did he fear someone shooting him down?

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All the ships and all the airplanes, too. That whole trip seemed odd to me and I think it is odd he’s taking off again so soon to Europe. I wonder if he has an arsenal in Europe. All I have read about is Europeans making fun of “the beast” - his armored limo.