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Israel says no building freeze in Jerusalem
miami herald ^ | 11.18.10 | AMY TEIBEL

Posted on 11/18/2010 5:30:14 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl

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Bibi has, for the most part, stood strong against the arabist state dept and the fleeting demands of the Ozero admin.

Actually he hasn't.

He went along with the first freeze. He capitulated on a Palestinian State. In fact I dare you to show any instance where he held firm.

Moshe Ya'alon, Begin, other Likud members, are holding firm. Not Netanyahu.

He talks a nice game, he did the first time too. At the end his bending to Clinton got his own allies to reject him. That brought the tragedy of having Barak become PM. He is now bending to Obama/Clinton and the result could be tragedy.

What will save Israel- and him- maybe is if he can't persuade the whores at Shas to sign on to this trap.

To be fair to Netanyahu, very few Israeli PM's have been able to withstand an unfriendly American President. On the other hand that is what people who had high hopes for Netanyahu prayed for and what Israel needs in a leader: today more then ever when the American President is so hostile.

41 posted on 11/19/2010 9:45:17 AM PST by HearMe
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His “capitulation” on a so-called palestinian state does not include Jerusalem and comes with major military restrictions as you know. It’s nothing they would agree to, as we can see since they haven’t. What I have seen is Bibi trying to be diplomatic and make the appearance of trying to work with the Americans, but how often since Ozero got into office have we heard them say that what Israel is doing “isn’t helpful”? What makes you think Bibi really wants to give the land away but his hands are tied? That’s not what he says and that’s not what has happened this time.


42 posted on 11/19/2010 10:26:08 AM PST by Cinnamon Girl (G-d Bless President Bush. He kept us safe.)
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Don’t misunderstand me.

I’m not saying Netanyahu wants to give anything away....or that he is a bad guy.

I know I’m arm chair quarterbacking.

Contrary to the opinion of Israel haters and anti-Semites, Israel doesn’t control the US. The US controls the fate of Israel. The US protects Israel from the whims of an Israeli hating World. It’s not about American aid. It’s about blocking the type of sanctions that brought South Africa to its knees.

I can not imagine the pressure Netanyahu is under. The blackmail from a powerful enemy such as Obama must be unbearable.

Still, supporters of Israel hoped he had the strength to stand tall and withstand the pressure. It seems he doesn’t have that ability.

Maybe no one could better.

When Israel has such an enemy in the White House, Israel is in peril- whoever is PM.


43 posted on 11/19/2010 10:48:25 AM PST by HearMe
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I can not imagine the pressure Netanyahu is under. The blackmail from a powerful enemy such as Obama must be unbearable.

No.

Just to scratch the surface: O offers 20 F-35 for 90 days freeze, which is supposed to be the last one. Everyone knows that F-35 delivery is vaporware, and that O has no intention of keeping any promises. The "hardline wing" plays up the demand that Bibi get everything in writing, and with firm lockdowns - and if he doesn't, they'll remove him and get a new leader. Bibi makes the demand to O - which is where we are now. O goes away, cursing and mumbling.

Bibi got trapped by Bill a long time ago, which was a pure gangster assault on Bill's part, and totally unforeseen. What went on at the last hours of Wye is almost unknown, but we have one Freeper who was there just feet from the action. Anyway, he won't get trapped again, probably.

44 posted on 11/19/2010 11:06:11 AM PST by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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