Airline Flight, Nude Scanning, Groping, Terrorism & Operant Conditioning

Gulag Bound ^ | 11/16/2010 | Arlen Williams & Janet Smiles

[Vinnie]

Unfortunately, my job REQUIRES me to fly

At one time they were talking about issuing 'frequent flyer' ID cards after a background check. Was supposed to speed up businessmen's boarding.

Did that ever happen?

[RobRoy]

I’m waiting to find out.

[Atlas Sneezed]

I’m 6’4” and flying is extremely uncomforatble because of the tight fit in the seats when the rude moron in front of you puts his seat all the way back crushing your knees.

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That “moron” paid for that space. Maybe you need to consider alternatives. I hear tall men on average are paid more, so maybe you might spring for a first class seat (or stop exaggerating the effects of the seat recline).

[Vinnie]

That was a proposal way back during Bush. If there is no provision now it must have been dropped.
I thought it was a good idea.

[Anima Mundi]

I agree with what you said:
It is a number of things OTHER than security.

It is about getting regular people used to being searched like a criminal by government authorities. It is you getting used to having your 4th Amendment rights violated for whatever stated reasons.

It is also about damaging the economy by damaging the airlines, probably with the longer term goal of tanking them hard enough government will nationalize them to ‘save them’.

It is also about restricting the ability of the public to travel, and certainly not to be able to travel without fear of being molested and strip searched like a prison inmate. It is about projecting fear into the travelling public. The desired effect government wants is restricted travel - either people will not use airplanes or will use them only when necessary. This helps to further the above goal of damaging the economy and the airlines, to the point they will be nationalized.

And would like to add that if the citizens have travel restricted they can’t be activists, protest, march, meet together, etc. as in TEA Party rallies, etc. Makes us separate and controllable. Though this sounds a bit like paranoia, it is better to nip it in the bud and be a bit oversensitive than to be laissez-faire and find out too late that control was afoot. What is that quote? If you don’t stand up and fight when you can then you eventually will have to fight when you have no chance of winning? (Something like that)

[Inyo-Mono]

That “moron” paid for that space. Maybe you need to consider alternatives. I hear tall men on average are paid more, so maybe you might spring for a first class seat (or stop exaggerating the effects of the seat recline).

Well, not when they are intruding in the space I paid for. I'm not exaggerating about how uncomfortable it is to fly when you are as tall as I am. Short people have no idea.

[DonnerT]

Americans are being conditioned to live in submission to sharia law.

[Atlas Sneezed]

Well, not when they are intruding in the space I paid for.

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I regret to inform you that the lean-back space belongs to the person ahead, at the permitted times during flight. How could you assume otherwise?

[rustbucket]

Well, not when they are intruding in the space I paid for. I'm not exaggerating about how uncomfortable it is to fly when you are as tall as I am.

Just keep your knees pushed into the middle of the seat in front of you rather than move them to the side where it might be uncomfortable for you. On some planes, the person in front can feel your knees through the seat. If that isn't enough, keep your knees aimed forward and move them around some so that he knows he's pushed the seat into you.

They've moved the seat rows so close together that such conflicts are inevitable.

[Fred Hayek]

I would venture another motive, since some are considering such “screenings” as bus stations and some rail transit stations. Long distance travel is not “green”. Anyone who travels a significant distance from their “village” needs to be made uncomfortable. This of course does not apply to the nomenklatura.
Soviet Union - anyone remember internal passports? Travel permission for a certain distance from the “assigned” domecile? Your papers please. This is where it leads.
Far fetched? When there are those on the Regime staff who still look up to Stalin and Mao, not too far fetched.

[Secret Agent Man]

It was a Winston Churchill quote. Basically what’s better, fighting today when victory is relatively assured, or fighting when there’s a good chance you could lose, or even worse, fighting when there’s no hope of winning left but fighting and dying is preferable to surrendering.

[AmericanInTokyo]

lol one of the funniest exchanges I have seen on FR in a long time

[Quix]

QUITE SO. QUITE SO.

[Sun]

Plus the radiation on these new scanners might be dangerous for frequent fliers, those with a poor immune system and children.

[Smokin' Joe]

This was a sneak attack on the airline industry. One more notch on the O’s belt of destruction.

Not just the airline industry, but large airframe aviation in general--and that's a strategic industry (think KC-135, military cargo planes, and the pilots who fly them, the crews who maintain them). Kill the industry, kill the capability outside active duty personnel, and DuhWon controls them by virtue of being CinC.