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Avoid Social Issues, GOP Urged (Homosexualists, Pro-Aborts Co-opt Tea Party Movement)
Politico ^ | Sunday, November 14, 2010 | Ben Smith and Byron Tau

Posted on 11/14/2010 3:38:40 PM PST by kristinn

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To: MrEdd
Here is a clue you are not bright enough to understand on your own: Unemployed people deprived of their ability to work by a socialist government tend to move right in their thinking

You must be brighter than me. I have not seen one of my tenants move right in thier thinking. The entitlements they all get seem to be a career choice to be handed down. I will start paying closer attention so as to observe the move to the right. I have some third generation welfare people with subsidized rent, food stamps, wic, etc. How long before I see the move? If they don't make a move soon, me and a bunch of other business people will be forced to throw in the towel due to taxes and regulations.

181 posted on 11/14/2010 6:56:13 PM PST by bobzeetwin
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To: only1percent
By the far the most important thing the government did was not be in the way.

Too late. The government is not only in the way, it is aggressively pushing forward with so-called hate-crime legislation, government-supported abortion and euthanasia hidden in footnotes of Obamacare, promotion of gay marriage through the courts, and forcing open the military ranks to practicing homosexuals.

Liberals today are hell bent on using government to promote abortion, homosexuality, the destruction of the traditional family, and to silence and marginalize those who are opposed to this despicable agenda. To concentrate on fiscal conservatism to the exclusion of these important social issues is to cede a vital front of the war to the enemy.

The war is already joined. We cannot remain passive. This war MUST be fought on BOTH fronts. Lose either front, and we will ultimately lose the war.

182 posted on 11/14/2010 6:56:53 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: VADoc1980; mojitojoe; Red Steel

Screw you, ZOTTED troll!

The Constitution protects the RIGHT TO LIFE! Abortion is KILLING!

Looky here, VAfakeDoc got the ZOT.


183 posted on 11/14/2010 6:58:53 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: VADoc1980
I see that you've been banned but before making stupid statements you might want to check history. There have been state laws against sodomy since the beginning of our country. They started being struck down by courts in the 60's. You know, during the "if it feels good, do it" hippie crap.

And pay particular attention to Virginia when Jefferson was Governor.

184 posted on 11/14/2010 6:59:12 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: counterpunch
Congress is there to attend to the affairs of the state, not opine. Their personal opinions don't matter. How they run the business of America does.

Their personal opinions on abortion don't matter to you, because you are not an unborn child and you apparently care very little about those who are. But for the lives that stand to be violently ended by abortion, and for those who recognize the value of those lives, the opinion of Congress on the matter is vital.

And saying that the states, not Congress, should decide on abortion is sheer evasion. The states cannot decide the matter. Why not? Because Congress is full of lawmakers whose personal opinions are pro-abortion, and the president often is pro-abortion, too, and so they fill the Supreme Court with justices who will protect abortion.

I understand that you don't care much whether or not the unborn are killed. But you have to understand that many others are not going to accept a Republican Party that is purportedly too busy cutting spending to bother about abortionists cutting up babies.

185 posted on 11/14/2010 7:00:03 PM PST by Irish Rose (Will work for chocolate.)
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To: counterpunch

‘they’re taking a Fundamentalist stance’

First time I’ve heard the Catholic Church called ‘Fundamentalist’.


186 posted on 11/14/2010 7:02:17 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: only1percent
Traditional social mores were never chiefly sustained or enforced by the power of the government (federal or state)...By far the most important thing the government did was not be in the way.

That was then, this is now. Now the government, and in particular the schools, are the main engines for promoting leftism and immorality. This battle has been raging for decades. We cannot unilaterally disarm. So long as our federal and state governments privilege and promote homosexuality, abortion and atheism then we will continue to produce "citizens" who lack the morality and rationality to provide for themselves and will instead vote for subjugation to the government.

Without papering over important differences, we all ought to be able to figure out a way to get behind the campaign to stop the liberal elite from taxing and regulating us into living our lives the way they think is proper.

Telling schoolchildren that they must accept homosexuality (and worse) as moral and that there is no God is the worst-spent government funding and the worst-conceived government regulation there is.

I agree that these things should not be federal issues. (They only are due to leftist judicial activism.) They should be decided in State legislatures (not courts). But the Tea Party movement is directed at all levels of government and I believe that Tea Party candidates for State legislature seats should campaign on all issues, including abortion, homosexuality, and government-enforced atheism.

187 posted on 11/14/2010 7:02:55 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: little jeremiah; VADoc1980
Totally ... already shown his troll true colors; and just happened to be ironically drawn like a magnet to the BHO eligibility issue within a couple days of joining FR, if not a retread.
188 posted on 11/14/2010 7:03:02 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: steveab

Hey troll, trotting out the old “I know some gay guys and they are clean cut, monogamous, never visit Thailand to rape little boys, they’re against same sex marriage and gays in the military and they’re really nice quiet fellows” is way, way overused.

I know some homosexuals and some are okay but misled and some are rabid demoniac people.

If homosexuals didn’t like the “gay” agenda we’d hear them cricize it.

CRICKETS!


189 posted on 11/14/2010 7:03:30 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: VADoc1980; counterpunch; darkwing104; Old Sarge; 230FMJ; 50mm; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; ...
BugZapper ZOTs on VADoc1980 and counterpunch.

To be added or removed from the VK list, FReepmail Darkwing104.

190 posted on 11/14/2010 7:03:44 PM PST by 50mm (I don't use drugs, my dreams are frightening enough.)
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To: behzinlea
The war is already joined. We cannot remain passive. This war MUST be fought on BOTH fronts. Lose either front, and we will ultimately lose the war.

No one is disagreeing with you. Just in the timing. Fight one battle at a time, then go to the next one.

191 posted on 11/14/2010 7:04:46 PM PST by bobzeetwin
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To: steveab

Trotting out the old “I know some gay guys and they are clean cut, monogamous, never visit Thailand to rape little boys, they’re against same sex marriage and gays in the military and they’re really nice quiet fellows” is way, way overused. Furthermore, it’s a LIE.

I know some homosexuals and some are okay but misled and some are rabid demoniac people.

If homosexuals didn’t like the “gay” agenda we’d hear them cricize it.

CRICKETS!


192 posted on 11/14/2010 7:04:53 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: bobzeetwin
You look only at those granted welfare and receiving it.

In my part of the country, the money has run out and the state isn't going into debt to continue the bennies so even the eternal dole recipiants are getting hit.

I primarily referred, however, to the formerly working poor and middle class - many of whom are showing up in conservative churches for the first time in their lives.

Here in the Sherman/Dennison area, many of the evangelical churches are experiencing explosive growth.

I go to a small outreach church intended to reach drug users and alcoholics and lead them to a saving relationship with Christ. I have seen a lot of people working on changing themselves who (I suspect) would not be persevering were their economic prospects up to keeping them in the nigh perpetual state of inebriation they were in before.

193 posted on 11/14/2010 7:06:12 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.8)
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To: Mariner

Wrong. Conservative Republicans win elections, socially leftist Rs do not (except maybe in MA which is a lost cause right now anyway).


194 posted on 11/14/2010 7:06:44 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: bobzeetwin
Maybe if we bring up the "social" issues we will lose some votes we need.

By turning the GOP into a socially moderate "Dem-lite" party elections are LOST!

195 posted on 11/14/2010 7:08:55 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: bobzeetwin
No one is disagreeing with you. Just in the timing. Fight one battle at a time, then go to the next one.

You have a rattlesnake poised to sink its fangs into your ankle, and a constrictor about to coil itself around your neck. Which battle do you attend to first?

196 posted on 11/14/2010 7:14:05 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: behzinlea
Too late. The government is not only in the way, it is aggressively pushing forward with so-called hate-crime legislation, government-supported abortion and euthanasia hidden in footnotes of Obamacare, promotion of gay marriage through the courts, and forcing open the military ranks to practicing homosexuals.

Liberals today are hell bent on using government to promote abortion, homosexuality, the destruction of the traditional family, and to silence and marginalize those who are opposed to this despicable agenda. To concentrate on fiscal conservatism to the exclusion of these important social issues is to cede a vital front of the war to the enemy.

The war is already joined. We cannot remain passive. This war MUST be fought on BOTH fronts. Lose either front, and we will ultimately lose the war.

BRAVO!

197 posted on 11/14/2010 7:14:07 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: 50mm; little jeremiah; darkwing104

IATZ!


198 posted on 11/14/2010 7:15:15 PM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: STARWISE

I saw him yesterday or the day before. He did not appear to be a real noob.

Too bad he dallied on this thread! HA HA.


199 posted on 11/14/2010 7:16:17 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: VADoc1980; Jim Robinson; little jeremiah; 50mm
"DON’T TREAD ON ME!!

Troll sighting!!

ZOT!!"

Ouch! Well, Doc, we won't be calling a Corpsman for you so I guess you'll just have to bleed out.

(Slowly and painfully I hpoe.)

200 posted on 11/14/2010 7:19:55 PM PST by Semper Mark (Vlad Tepes was a piker.)
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