Posted on 11/13/2010 2:55:59 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009
I asked you for links before. WTF is wrong with you? Where’s the link to the NYTs article?
I have seen that page before. There is no video there just a still pic. If there is supposed to be a video at the link you provided it doesn’t work for me.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/frixx/news-helicopter-emergency_n_782742_67268900.html ~ LA TIMES ~ did I say NYT ~ I was citing this article ~ there’s an interview out there no one is reading ~
Thank you. For whatever reason I don’t get a video on the Early Show site. Maybe the same glitch that prevents me from seeing certain things on Youtube. Started about a week+ ago and nothing I do fixes it. I can play Youtube videos but no drop down menus or thumbnails on the right or video on my own channel there.
What am I supposed to see at HuffPo? The link goes to the Emergency Landing article not anything to do with the mystery missile.
I just went through all the LATimes articles to see if we had a voice interview, or just written ~
Still, I demonstrated that there are already TWO DIFFERENT CBS INTERVIEWS! One is by the network and the other is by the local station.
He says different things.
Unfortunately I can't view any video at the Early Show link. It's just a static still pic on my machine.
So far no one has been able to provide hard, scientific missile alternative to the contrail theory that does appear to match the photos; satellite or terrestrial. The radar data is public FAA data. The satellite data is public NOAA data, presumably safe from tampering. I don't believe Google has anything to gain by mis-plotting the flight path data in three dimensions. Nor will they have a reason to skew the sun position for the time of sunset on November 8.
I don't consider "the sunlight and shadows of the plume" as anything but speculation and a weak argument at best. I don't care if the rocket was coming or going. I just want to see someone provide the world with a map with a dotted line of altitude, speed and bearing of a rocket in flight that would produce the plume as seen from at least two separate locations on November 8. Why has it not been produced? Because it can't be done. No trajectory can possibly match them because it wasn't a missile.
To contradict that statement seems like a trivial assignment for a very advanced mathematics star university honors person. I'm a not very advanced, non-mathematics, non-star, non-honors university student and I managed to do it for a common contrail.
UPS902 began it decent from 39000 feet at the coordinates 33.22, -119.14, a straight line distance of 65 miles to LAX (just as a point of reference).
Its decent profile from that point took it on a course over Catalina VOR, continued ESE to a turn to the NNW approximately 7 miles NNW of Escondido. This gave it a glide path of approximately 195 miles from 33.22, -119.14 to landing at KONT.
Simple trigonometry will reveal that this yields a glide slope of approximately 2.19 degrees (200 feet of drop per mile), well within a standard profile approach for a heavy jet.
47.743116,-122.194077, altitude approximately 80 feet, +/- 15
Heading: 246 degrees (north being 0),
Unknown field of view of camera, I estimate 100-200mm, not sure if those photos are cropped.
Time: 5:19, 5:20 which correlates from cargolaw.com fixed camera image (5:15pm) of same contrail from LAX.
To expect an exact match given variables such as wind speed, temperature and day length would be foolish.
Sorry you can't make the video run. Maybe try CBS NEWS DOT COM ~ remember, it's the NETWORK story that has this guy retracing all his stuff and saying things differently.
Not very advanced mathematics at all.
The conclusion is that if this were a rocket it'd be nearly a MILE WIDE ~ which is improbable. Therefore, the analysis suggesting this to be an airplane related event is probably right.
thanks
The cameraman in the interview said he saw something similar a week ago but not as spectacular. What is your cite for your assertions of how long he video taped it, what the timing on the video tape is and the object’s apparent speed?
“He says different things. “
That he does. In this interview he states that it was “spinning and going in a westerly direction” http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2010/11/09/exclusive-raw-video-mysterious-missile-launch-off-california-coast/
In this interview he said that it “it appeared to come from over the horizon and “continued to GROW””. The commentator on the video said of Leyvas: “To him, it looked like an INCOMING missile”. http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7040407n&tag=related;photovideo
Now where I come from, the words “continued to grow” and “incoming” means an object is coming at you, and if he indeed was over the coast, that would mean the object was heading EAST.
In this interview, he says “it was growing” twice. The second time he said it was very telling. He included it in this sentence: “IT was unique, IT was MOVING, IT was growing”. So the “IT” HAD to be the object, because if he was talking about the plume, he most certainly wouldn’t have said THAT was moving”
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7040407n&tag=related;photovideo
All I have to say is the government and any of its agencies have never been transparent of any findings of any investigation they don’t want the public to know about.I am of the firm belief that if only one plane had crashed into the WTC it would have been classified as an accident.We have seen in the past where govt. agencies have flat out lied and disavowed any knowledge of other events.When this incident took place our Pentagon and DOD could only say they had no clue what it was. I take no stock in any evidence submitted by any govt. agency as being the gospel truth.
Let me put it this way, there are people in government who tell lies ~ all the people with boats tied up in the Channel Islands tell lies ~ at one time or the other.
Sometimes the people running the Satellite Surveillance Service tell lies.
On the other hand, except in the British Empire, "government" is not a personal pronoun. It's a "tool" ~ a "thing" ~
Now, back to those private boat owners who couldn't have missed it, they missed it, and yet none of them are reported missing?
The "government" couldn't even hide the fact that a dental office down the street was hit with a meteorite last year! Came right through the roof ~ plopped on the floor. Another part hit his parking lot.
The copter pilot also reports that he took a similar picture "last week" but it wasn't as good.
I loved that one ~ somebody is launching huge rockets nearly a mile in diameter over and over and over, and he's shooting all of them from his copter but no one else even notices them!
Muy Clever young grasshopper ~ of course the contrail doesn’t move ~ until the winds catch it ~ but the contrail Fur Shur wasn’t moving toward this guy ~ but the airplane was!
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