2003 Supreme Court: For 200 years domestic law of the US recognizes the Law of Nations(Vattel)

US Supreme Court ^ | October Term, 2003 | USSC

[bushpilot1]

Not sure who wrote affirming law of nations a part of domestic law. Do you have an idea who it might be?

[kosciusko51]

I see if I search for Vattel, I find 4 other post with Vattel in the title, the earliest being June of this year. I’m no lawyer, but why wasn’t something like this explored in ‘08?

[bgill]

No, but this speaks to 200 years of history and the First Congress.

[bgill]

That's the $64,000 question. Not long ago, Justice Thomas admitted the Supremes were "evading" the question. e·vade/iˈvād/Verb - Escape or avoid, esp. by cleverness or trickery.

[LucyT]

Article, also # 14 and # 16.

[Thanks, Slings and Arrows.]

[Non-Sequitur]

They did. From Article I, section 8: "To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;"

They didn't in the Supreme Court decision.

[Jedidah]

You ask why it’s taken so long for someone to note this argument.

Fact is, this has been discussed many times for many months here on Free Republic.

It just needs to get before the Court.

[bushpilot1]

“The first crime in the indictment is an infraction of the law of Nations. This law, in its full extent, is part of the law of this State,” Lonchamps was found guilty.

A case was filed in state court. http://supreme.justia.com/us/1/111/case.html

The case is cited in the 2003 Supreme Court opinion.

Obama is breaking domestic law being president... a violation of Vattel’s Law of Nations.

The Court quoted Marshall.. Vattel’s Law of Nations is the law of the land.

[Non-Sequitur]

The Court quoted Marshall.. Vattel’s Law of Nations is the law of the land.

In your dreams maybe.

[hoosiermama]

There is a second meaning of the word evade. Thomas is a word smith and was probably using it. It can be found in more detailed older dictionaries.

Evade...to be too difficult, puzzling or baffling , the flavor evades definition.

The qualifications evades or isdifficult, puzzling, baffling needs study.

from:
The New Lexicon Webster's Dictionary...encyclopedia edition

[hoosiermama]

Let's try this again...something didn't work.
There is a second meaning of the word evade. Thomas is a word smith and was probably using it. It can be found in more detailed older dictionaries.

Evade...to be too difficult, puzzling or baffling , the flavor evades definition.

from:
The New Lexicon Webster's Dictionary...encyclopedia edition

The qualifications evades or is difficult, puzzling, baffling..... needs study.

[ataDude]

Exactly.

[Lurking Libertarian]

When the Constitution refers to the “Law of Nations,” they are not referring to Vattel’s book. “The law of nations” was the 18th century term for what we today call “international law.” Vattel was one writer on that subject.

[PA-RIVER]

Can you copy and past from the source? I can’t open the document.

[bushpilot1]

Chief Justice said..the source of “law of nations” written in the Constitution is from Vattel.

[bushpilot1]

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/03pdf/03-339.pdf

[bushpilot1]

[bushpilot1]

"If they were referring to Vatel’s book then wouldn’t they have capitalized “Law of Nations”? The NS Spin game stops.

[Non-Sequitur]

The NS Spin game stops.

But the bushpilot1 fantasy goes on...and on...and on...

[American Constitutionalist]

Yeah, their voices are fewer in between and slowly shutting up.
Remember back about 2 years ago, the birthers were called kooks and a fringe group that has a cause that is going nowhere ? .... and now ? their voices are saying, ahhh just leave him in office until 2012, he will be voted out.. my my, how 2 years have changed things...
Now why would they be now saying " just leave him in office and let him serve his term out until 2012 " .... so now ? they are admitting that he is a fraud ?