Posted on 10/27/2010 7:18:22 AM PDT by bkopto
BTW. I don’t think we can save you if you don’t want to or can’t save yourselves. We can help you fight foreign aggression, not the enemy within: multicultural, politically correct, socialist vermin and other liberals who enabled Mohammed to become the #1 name in Britain.
“.......who enabled Mohammed to become the #1 name in Britain.”
Or is it?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2615471/posts
That hat looks like the eraser on a cheap pencil.
Thanks, but we’d rather you stayed the hell out!
Its a sarcastic dig at the ‘we saved your ass in two world wars’ nonsense that some Americans believe where Britain and ww1/ww2 are concerned.
Well, if you mean that there might be an attitude that America won those wars single-handedly and without critical help of allies, I wholeheartedly agree. But I would still have to say that, without America, those wars would not have been won.
In case I’m not clear, let me acknowledge how crucially important the British contribution was:’
1. Churchill. Without him there would be no Britain by 1941.
2. The Spitfire. Together with the Hurricane, won the Battle of Britain and held off the nazis so there was still a bastion of freedom off the coast of Europe from which the allies together could later defeat the Germans.
3. Brit Intelligence. Cracking the German code alone made incalculable contribution to allied victory. Not to mention running resistance organizations in occuppied lands, counterintel ops, and many wonderful, ingenius ruses.
4. The British soldier, including the Commonwealth nations. Fine soldiers all around. Tough, reliable, loyal.
5. The British people including the Commonwealth nations. Answered Churchill’s clarion call in the fight against evil. Had the bulldog fortitude to fight through to victory. Gave their precious sons to the cause.
Sadly, the topic of this thread unfavorably compares today’s Britain with that of yesteryear. I look on it with the sadness of one watching the deterioration of a good friend. Mind you, I don’t find Britain faultless, the English people were damn good allies.
Okey, dokey. Just make sure and brush up on your arabic, the koran and pedophelia. You’ll be fine. /s
1—I agree that America was needed in ww2 otherwise the war couldnt have been won. American couldnt have won it without us, nor us without you. And neither without the USSR.
WW1 is a different matter. America’s influence in that war 1917-18 has been exaggerated. That is not to decry the bravery and sacrifice of the men who died in US colours, but American entry didnt tip the scales quite as much as modern myth has it.
2—’English’?.
Not the wisest thing to say when replying to a Scotsman....lol
Sorry about the Enlish referrence. Take it the way Churchill would speak and write of “the English-speaking peoples”. Not bad company to be in.
Gimme this guy any day: Brigadier The Lord “Shimi” Lovat. What a man! What a Scotsman!
.... Well, if you mean that there might be an attitude that America won those wars on its own and without critical help of allies, I wholeheartedly agree. But without America, those wars would not have been won ....
Every Europeon ingrate also forgets the TRILLIONS of DOLLARS worth of equipment sent - at the cost of thousands of American lives - via the treasonous criminal machination Roosevelt called “Lend-Lease” (IE as welfare!) to them all — and especially to arm and to save the effectively unarmed and defenseless Limeys and to the Soviets.
.... In case I’m not clear, let me acknowledge how “ important” the British contribution was:’
.... 1. Churchill. Without him there would be no Britain by 1941 ....
True — BUT — Unless it was by such odious and/or treasonous Socialist Internationals as the execrable Clement Atlee (with whose election, in 1945, the bloody British “thanked” Mr Churchill) and the traitor, Harold Wilson, the once-great British electorate was never more accurately mirrored nor better represented than by the craven appeaser, Neville Chamberlain.
Winston Leonard Spencer Jerome Churchill was, thank God, an anglo-American.
.... 2. The Spitfire. Together with the Hurricane, won the Battle of Britain ....
The Battle of Britain was won by the tactical genius of the New Zealander, Keith Park. Who for his genius and his valor was immediately posted to obscure places and, as are America’s more than two hundred years of massive and vital contributions of blood and treasure, dismissed from British consciousness. Also vital to winning the Battle of Britain were the very many “colonial” (Empire and Commonwealth) pilots and airmen. (And large numbers of pseudo-British Celts!)
.... 3. Brit Intelligence. Cracking the German code alone made incalculable contribution to allied victory. Not to mention running resistance organizations in occupied lands, counterintelligence ops, and many wonderful, ingenious ruses ....
Yep, Limeys are sneaky and duplicitous to a “T.” And had the Australian, Nancy Wake. And lots more Celts.
4. The ... Empire and Commonwealth soldier. Fine all around soldiers. Tough, reliable, loyal ....
Thank God, considering how many times the bloody Brits fade away from their sixes and left them exposed and vulnerable. Malaya and Singapore spring immediately to mind and they’re still doing it. Most recently in Basra where they entered a relatively peaceful city, bivouacked there a couple of years, turned the city into a seething Shiite Militia-controlled shi’t’ hole, ran away to the airport from which, when America gave them a lift, they fled back to once-great Britain. (Much more American blood and treasure then needing to be invested in the restoration of Basra to its pre-British state. (Kinda like the story of the once-great Britons’ Empire)
.... 5. The Empire and Commonwealth countries and, as usual, the Celts, answered the anglo-American, Churchill’s, call in the fight, suffered under the blundering bloody British officer corps — and had the fortitude to fight through to victory. Gave their precious sons to the cause ....
And, like America, for their massive sacrifices earned only pathologically-ingrate once-great Britain’s scorn and derision as thanks for having so many times these past two-hundred-odd years — right back to the days of ‘the Halls of Montezuma and to the Barbary Shores of Tripoli, saved its sorry arse.
Although, to give credit where its due, almost seventy years after being the one to whom so many owed so much, Air Chief Marshal Sir Keith Park GCB, KBE, MC* DFC, DCL, MA, RAF, Defender of London, 1940, was recognized by his statue being placed in Trafalgar Square, on the fourth plinth, near the Nelson memorial. (Where it belongs) Before, after a year near then-great Britain’s earlier savior, being moved to a permanent site, in Waterloo Place.
http://www.sirkeithpark.com/image_library.aspx
1—Stop referring to the British as ingrates.
Britain is England, Scotland, NI and Wales. NOT just England and the English.
And by playing this silly Anglo vs Celt nonsense, you insult the memory of the bravery and sacrifice of ALL those from the British Isles who fought and died in two world wars and wars since, from Korea to the present day.
Those men and women and the great heroes of Britain 1914-2010, and those who came before and those who will come after, are heroes to ALL of us who are lucky enough to be British.
So damn well stop calling us ingrates and stop insulting Britain and the British. That is MY country and MY heroes you are insulting.
2-—And every American forgets ‘reverse lend lease’, which from Jan 1942 to Sept 1945 (three months AFTER Truman stopped LL to Britain) saw Britain GIVE America £1.2 BILLION dollars in arms and supplies.
Reverse lend lease is now forgotten.
3—And LL did not start until the passing of the LL Act on March 11th 1941. With supplies not arriving on US ships until late may 1941. Until then, Britain had to PAY for all its supplies.
The ‘cash and carry’ method, where British and Canadian ships transported the arms and supplies across the Atlantic.
4—Your snide attack on the British at Malaya and Singapore is disgusting. I could easily bring up how easily the Americans were kicked out of Bataan, Corrigedor etc. But that wouldnt be the full picture, and unlike you, I have no wish to spit on the graves of brave men....
Oh, and Malaya?. Thats the country that between 1948 and 1960 where Britain defeated a Communist uprising and saved part of SE Asia for democracy.
Well, someone in the West had to defeat Communism on the battlefield......
5—Your pathetic attack on the British in Iraq is again both snide and incorrect. Did the British make errors?. Yes. But to sit there as an armchair general and to attack your biggest and most loyal ally who have fought and died beside you in two warzones is as low as it gets.
The British Army is a superbly trained and led army and has to apologise and justify itself to no-one. And of course, the US Army has not and never makes errors....
6—Your overall whine about saving Britain’s ass is just the usual inaccurate rubbish.
I suspect Americas #1 name shall soon be Jesus or Manuel
Mohammed vs Jesus How interesting.
Addendums:
1—Reverse lend lease did not just come from the British.
The USSR, New Zealand, Australia and South Africa also gave America almost $10 BILLION between 1942 and 1945.
2—America was not the only nation to give Britain large amounts of aid in ww2.
Canada gave Britain $6 BILLION in ‘Mutual Aid’ between 1939 and 1946. NO interest, and payable ‘after the war has ended’...
I didn't do Tom, Dick and Harry - but I did do James, Charles, Henry, William, and John.
Daily Mail reports 7,449 'Mohammeds' (counting all the variant spellings). They are actually wrong on that - they missed one vairant, so the real count is 7,552.
If we look at all the variants of John (such as Jon), we find 11,598.
William (variants include Wiliam), we find 8,959.
Henry (Henri as an example), 8,389.
James (Jaymes), 9,689.
All four of these come in above Mohammed.
Charles (Charls) comes in slightly behind at 7,081.
I guessed at five common English names - and when we compare all variants as was done for Mohammed, four of the five come in ahead of it.
Took me about two hours to do this - it's certainly not beyond the resources of a newspaper to do it, if they want the facts, rather than a good headline.
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