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Over the Horizon: Warning Signs in U.S. Civil-Military Relations [Shades of "Oathkeepers?"]
World Politics Review ^ | October 20, 2010 | Professor Robert Farley

Posted on 10/21/2010 11:54:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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If the generals, admirals and other officers were contemptuous of President Clinton, can you imagine their feelings about the present occupant of the Oval Office?
1 posted on 10/21/2010 11:54:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This could be very dangerous....


2 posted on 10/21/2010 11:58:20 PM PDT by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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And the reason our military personnel should not be bothered by Presidential and Congressional incompetence is?

Incompetence that results in death and injury?


3 posted on 10/22/2010 12:06:59 AM PDT by OldArmy52 (Obama & the "Dem Party" have proved America is ready for Fascism/Socialism.)
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Dangerous to the survival of America.

We cannot allow a man (whoremonger) like Bill Clinton to lose the nuclear codes and the likes of this America hating president to be in charge of national security.


5 posted on 10/22/2010 12:20:41 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LTC Milburn is correct. Military Officers takes an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, and to bear true faith and allegiance to the same. It seems that some take it seriously and pillow biters like Dr. Farley don’t like it. I think Dr. farley is either a moron or a political hack.


6 posted on 10/22/2010 12:21:25 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Oh my goodness, we better have some sort of civilian group of folks as large and well funded as the military as a counterbalance!!

We can call it the Social Alternative, or SA and give them a nice uniform and everything. They could patrol elections to make sure no one is intimidating voters, help control the situation when groups show up in DC to protest, and even point out which businesses are guilty of being evil price gouging capitalists. Aren't you glad we have a fearless leader who already saw the need?

And democrat thugs call other people Nazis, jeez. It looks like the kickoff of the campaign ensure that the military doesn't take their oath to protect and defend the Constitution to heart and confront these bastards.

Regards

7 posted on 10/22/2010 12:23:36 AM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is already insane and sequestered on golf courses or vacations so you won't know it)
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To: Neil E. Wright

Bump...and ping...


8 posted on 10/22/2010 12:29:44 AM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is far more within the uniformed ranks that spell trouble for the military culture. The US Coast Guard will reward a member who recruits a new Coastie. If the recruit is white, a day of shore leave is awarded. But, if a non-white is recruited, a Letter Of Commendation is awarded. This letter is of more consequence as it can add an additional point to promotion scores, etc. If the senior offices and NCOs do not step in and willfully allow political correctness to prevail, there goes the an honorable service, part of America’s “Fundamental Transformation”.


9 posted on 10/22/2010 12:36:15 AM PDT by Dapper 26
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That raises the possibility that poor civil-military relations may be an unavoidable consequence of the decision to maintain a large standing military with global responsibilities electing a communist ideologue to be commander and chief.
10 posted on 10/22/2010 12:41:50 AM PDT by dajeeps
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If the generals, admirals and other officers were contemptuous of President Clinton, can you imagine their feelings about the present occupant of the Oval Office?

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Barry: 'See, I ended the war, give me my due!'

What a P.O.S. PUTZ!

Obama delivers remarks-2sm

11 posted on 10/22/2010 1:07:40 AM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There have been times of late, that to not have contempt for some the actions of our supreme commanders, would have been contemptous.


12 posted on 10/22/2010 1:22:03 AM PDT by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Troops-chafe-at-restrictive-rules-of-engagement_-talks-with-Taliban-1226055-105202284.html


13 posted on 10/22/2010 1:31:35 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Only the sane ask why. The insane simply are.)
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To: Yehuda

I agree. That line is revealing of Farley’s agenda, which is to constrain the military from actions not approved by the left.

It’s also interesting that he fails to even mention the use of the courts to override DADT. If he is really concerned about civilian/military relationships there is hardly a better example of institutional disrespect for the military. We have a Federal judge with no military experience or training arbitrarily and unilaterally deciding the impact of a decision on readiness, troop morale, recruitment, and retention. And demanding the military submit to her dictates with no recourse.


14 posted on 10/22/2010 1:43:48 AM PDT by Da Mav
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To: Yehuda

I agree. That line is revealing of Farley’s agenda, which is to constrain the military from actions not approved by the left.

It’s also interesting that he fails to even mention the use of the courts to override DADT. If he is really concerned about civilian/military relationships there is hardly a better example of institutional disrespect for the military. We have a Federal judge with no military experience or training arbitrarily and unilaterally deciding the impact of a decision on readiness, troop morale, recruitment, and retention. And demanding the military submit to her dictates with no recourse.


15 posted on 10/22/2010 1:43:52 AM PDT by Da Mav
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To: Rashputin

“We can call it the Social Alternative, or SA and give them a nice uniform and everything”

We can call it Social Services, or SS.


16 posted on 10/22/2010 2:30:12 AM PDT by rickb308 (Nothing good ever came from someone yelling "Allah Snackbar")
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To: Yehuda

Y, thx for the tip on this wanker, Farley. I especially like the video with Farley and Reason.
http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2010/10/with-the-blogging-and-the-heads#comments


17 posted on 10/22/2010 2:39:42 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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We already have Social Services, that's the bunch that ensures all the plantation dwellers are looked after and provided with just enough to ensure they'll be around to vote for the right folks in the next election and not getting any silly ideas like taking care of themselves.

Regards

Oh, they help unwed mothers, too, in order to make sure there isn't any overcrowding on the plantation by having too many little plantation patsies born.

18 posted on 10/22/2010 2:43:53 AM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is already insane and sequestered on golf courses or vacations so you won't know it)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting article. Statists, Globalists, One Worlders must be quaking if military goes “Oath Keeper” en masse.


19 posted on 10/22/2010 2:44:23 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (They don't let you build churches in Mecca)
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To: Egon

Reference bump


20 posted on 10/22/2010 2:47:43 AM PDT by RhoTheta (Wipe out capitalism, no more money. You following me camera guy?)
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