Posted on 10/11/2010 3:42:06 PM PDT by earlJam
Perhaps just not in that area? I don’t know how SF ops in Afhanistan are divided up. Perhaps it’s by geographical area?
Why do you think the Taliban specifically target aid workers, and brutally murder the medics, the educators, the ones who help agriculture and the political process? After all, they don't carry guns. They get targeted because their weapons are ideas, and that is what the Taliban is REALLY frightened of. What happens when ordinary afghanis learn that the Taliban is mostly financed by drug money, in spite of the prohibitions in the Quran? What happens when Afghani women realise they can actually get an education rather than just be baby-making devices? What happens when Afghanis get proper medicine, help with farming, clean water supplies, and all from the so-called "despises infidels"? The Taliban loses appeal and thereby support, thats what. And they know it.
It varies from country to country. The Brits, Canucks and Dutch quite a lot. The others, not so much.
Agreed. Candor7 needs to cut free from his own “jingoism”.
I don’t see how challenging one freepers incredibly over the top opinion equates to an insult to all servicemen and veterans on this site. There’s a world of difference between being patriotic and being unthinkingly loyal.
Thanks for the information.
I think that was directed at me rather than Candor7, so I'll just point a few things out:
I am British, but even if I wasn't, religious-like devotion to the American government's (or any government's) policies is fundamentally stupid (not to mention blasphemous if you believe in the almighty).
Policy is not the same as principle. If Cameron is criticising aspects of US Foreign Policy, this is not the same thing as hating America and everything it stands for. Candor7 was equating criticism of aspects of US foreign policy with enmity towards the US, and by that standard, deeming Cameron anti-american, which is both ridiculous and pathetic, as I hope you will agree...
Cameron has already stated it was the right thing to do under the circumstances, and that he doesn’t regret authorising the rescue. The reason he has come out with this information is because he had previously been told that it was the Taliban who blew her up. Because new information has come to light which contradicts what was previously stated, Cameron had to correct it otherwise it would sound like a coverup once the inevitable truth got out. It is not some calculated attempt to disparage US Forces who, as he himself stated, were carrying out a difficult job under difficult circumstances...
Big fat hairy deal.
Chaos happens. Sometimes the hostage dies. That is STILL a better outcome than ransoming her or exchanging Aafia Siddiqui for her.
And they DID kill all the Taliban who were holding her.
The odds of these type situations coming off perfectly are extremely low to begin with. The unit that went in, is the best of the best (and that is not just some phrase) but a reality. As to what happened exactly & why, none of that is known whatsoever at this point, especially so in terms of OSINT along with the media.
Could have been a breaching charge, secondary explosion off that, they could have been moving the hostage as to use as a shield at a choke point (while a fierce firefight was ensuing, this part we know to be true, a fierce firefight was taking place).
Bottom line is these shooters should have prayers and thanks for all they put on the line here. There is no such thing as guaranteed outcomes....but her best bet was for the rescue attempt that was tried. A much worse fate for her was certain had she been passed along to the Pak border...
What is even more disgusting than all the typical MSM spin...is that our own POUTS/CinC has seemingly made comments not in full support of these shooters risking all....but under the guise of getting to the bottom of any mistakes that were made. Shameful except the man clearly has no shame.
okay.
Yes, there is. Blind faith to any country is dangerous. Deep love is one thing, zealotry is another.
And why do Americans talk as if the rest of the West in particular have no freedom in comparison to the US?. As a Scot and Brit, I live a pretty free life as well thanks.
You think the level of participation in the government and all public aspects of the United States that Americans citizens enjoy engenders blind faith?
You think that the American belief that people have inalienable rights separate from government control whatsoever engenders blind faith?
Oh, Americans have faith and it's in themselves and the beautiful principles America was founded on that protects the power and rights of citizens and limits the power of government to oppress.
You don't need blind faith to love that and it's absolutely deserving of zealotry.
Agreed
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