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CONFIRMED: Court Did Rely on Oath Keeper Association to Take Baby
Oath Keepers ^ | October 11, 2010 | Stewart Rhodes

Posted on 10/11/2010 11:03:09 AM PDT by Sopater

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To: Sopater

They (govt) had license to steal kid(s), keep them away from parents, and drag the separation along for months or years while the tedious legal process is used to undo the damages the state has done to the family.

You and I have voted in idiots that allow this abuse.

If your ballot has JUDGE RETENTION VOTES — vote every one of them out of office. NOW, DO IT NOW.


21 posted on 10/11/2010 11:39:36 AM PDT by George from New England (Escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: All

Apparently, the redacted paragraphs that we are not supposed to see, have extremely damaging and serious allegations.

http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/219670/couple-state-took-our-baby

http://reason.com/blog/2010/10/08/baby-snatching-its-hilarious-w


22 posted on 10/11/2010 11:39:51 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: Sopater

My personal opinion is that it’s better to stay “under the radar”.


23 posted on 10/11/2010 11:40:27 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Marty62
I would suggest the “Oath Keepers” distant themselves from this guy.

The issue is that CPS went after Oath Keepers, the cops let 'em, and the judge didn't question the honesty of the affidavit regarding the description of the Oath Keepers. That would call into question the honesty of the entire affidavit, and exposes a political motive in CPS action.

24 posted on 10/11/2010 11:41:51 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

No, I suspect that if those paragraphs were not redacted, there wouldn’t be a convenient platform for “OH NOEZ, CONSPIWACY!!!”


25 posted on 10/11/2010 11:43:45 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: Navy Patriot

Your issue is with the police and judge over the referrence to Oath Keepers.

NOT the issue of the childs safety. It seems to me the Lazy Judge and CPS people didn’t want to take the time to do this by the Law.


26 posted on 10/11/2010 11:47:50 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: All

But wait, there is more: (From back in 2004).

http://archive.seacoastonline.com/20...news/48093.htm

HAMPTON - A Winnacunnet High School student from Seabrook was arrested last week following a report that he had a weapon and threatened “a Columbine-type crime” at the high school.

Jonathan Irish, 17, an incoming senior at WHS, was taken into custody by North Hampton police Thursday, after it was reported to them the young man was in possession of a weapon.

Irish allegedly told a friend from North Hampton he was going to bring guns to the school, “hide them, and kill anybody he wants to,” according to a source close to the investigation about what he termed the “Columbine-type” situation.

The friend reported Irish’s comments to North Hampton police, who took Irish into custody. He was subsequently charged with criminal threatening. A search warrant was executed at the young man’s Seabrook home, but police did not immediately say whether any weapons were found at Irish’s home.

Irish was arraigned on the charge Friday morning in Hampton District Court, and is being held at Rockingham County House of Correction without bail.

In court, Judge Francis Frasier ordered Irish held pending a psychiatric evaluation to determine his mental state.

Responding to the arrest, the administration at Winnacunnet High School determined that Irish should not be allowed to return to Winnacunnet this school year.

In a letter sent to parents Friday, WHS Principal Ruth Leveille wrote, in part: “It was reported to police that the student was in possession of a weapon. Resulting from these facts the student will not be returning to Winnacunnet High School.”


27 posted on 10/11/2010 11:47:50 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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From 2005:

http://archive.seacoastonline.com/2005news/hampton/07292005/police_l/55221.htm

July 25

# Jonathon Irish, 18, was charged with operating after suspension, false registration/inspection sticker and unregistered motor vehicle, after a motor-vehicle stop on Lafayette Road at 10:50 a.m.


28 posted on 10/11/2010 11:48:56 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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From 2007

http://archive.seacoastonline.com/news/hampton/02022007/announcements-h-coplogs0202.html

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# Jonathan Irish, 20, was charged with possession of a controlled drug, possession of a concealed weapon, and violation of bail.


29 posted on 10/11/2010 11:49:35 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: muawiyah
Sometimes the "target" really is a bad dude.

True. Which is why I think the govt strategy of connecting "bad dudes" with "Oath Keepers" or "Tea Parties" or "FR" looks very effective.

The heroes at the Alamo would've been branded as racists and drunk drivers by the modern version of the Santa Anna govt and media today.

30 posted on 10/11/2010 11:51:18 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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31 posted on 10/11/2010 11:51:24 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: freedomwarrior998

You wanted to talk about a different subject than he was raising, so you (purposedly?)missed his point by a mile.


32 posted on 10/11/2010 11:51:41 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years)
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From 2005

http://archive.seacoastonline.com/2005news/hampton/03252005/news/71931.htm

SEABROOK - A Seabrook teenager is scheduled for a probable cause hearing on April 4 after being charged with sexual assault on a 14-year-old girl.

Jonathan Irish, 18, of 620 Lafayette Road, is being held at Rockingham County Jail without bail pending a psychological evaluation. He was arraigned Tuesday in Hampton District Court and is scheduled for a probable cause hearing at the court on April 4 at 11 a.m.

Police arrested Irish on Monday after going to his house for alleged illegal drug activity, according to an affidavit filed with the court by Seabrook Prosecutor Scott Mendes.

Irish allegedly told Sgt. Dana Bedell and Officer Frank Brown that two juvenile females in the apartment were doing drugs. The officers interviewed the girls, smelling the odor of burned marijuana on them, according to Mendes. One of the juveniles, who was 14, told police she and Irish were boyfriend and girlfriend and had sexual intercourse at least 10 times since they started dating, according to the affidavit. Police took her into protective custody.

The other girl, who was 17, was released.

Irish said he knew how old the girl was, according to court records.


33 posted on 10/11/2010 11:53:06 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: Balding_Eagle

The rest of the affidavit is extremely important. I guess it isn’t important to people with an agenda, but it is important to the rest of us.


34 posted on 10/11/2010 11:54:35 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: Marty62
It seems to me the Lazy Judge and CPS people didn’t want to take the time to do this by the Law.

Oh, OK, it's all right then, I forgot for a moment that there are a group in America that are above the law, the end justifies the means, and good intentions are a perfect excuse for collateral damage and false witness.

35 posted on 10/11/2010 11:58:50 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: sam_paine
I don't disagree with any of what you're saying. They have us right where they want us. And each and every one of us can be taken down with a simple smear. This guy belonged to Oath Keepers and owned guns? That's a short step away from belonging to Free Republic and owning guns... I get that.

We're all susceptible. And we're all targets.

My point was simple: Stay away from Alex Jones at all costs. He's the enemy within. For the Oath Keepers to use his disgraced name in this press release is beyond foolish. It does great harm to their cause as well as ours.

36 posted on 10/11/2010 12:00:54 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: freedomwarrior998

There are other threads that consider the broad question of whether these a parents are fit parents.

In the specific consideration of whether being a member of Oath Keepers is a valid reason for the Court to remove the children from the home, the rest of the affidavit is irrelevant. .


37 posted on 10/11/2010 12:01:03 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years)
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To: Balding_Eagle
In the specific consideration of whether being a member of Oath Keepers is a valid reason for the Court to remove the children from the home, the rest of the affidavit is irrelevant.

Exactly, if CPS, cops and the judge had left Oath Keepers completely out of reference in the case I'd have no comment on Mr. Irish or the case.

38 posted on 10/11/2010 12:14:29 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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...but we don't want the Irish
39 posted on 10/11/2010 12:14:55 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Stay away from Alex Jones at all costs.

It's hard to tell whether he's doing George Noory, or Phil Hendrie or a combination of both!

But there has to be at least one person always at the very edge.

40 posted on 10/11/2010 12:16:13 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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