Posted on 10/05/2010 6:01:36 AM PDT by Kaslin
wow - first I have heard of this drug stuff
can you point to a source? Not that you word isn’t golden, mind you, I just want to see why this took so long to come out....
It is obvious, they have something to hide
Before you two get locked into a heated debate over Costco’s Security Cameras, let me ask you both this.
Do you not find it the least bit odd that with all the customers being asked to leave the store, with cop cars outside, firetrucks and ambulances in the parking lot, AND IT’S LAS VEGAS, that there is not one, single, person that caught ANY of this incident on their cell phone camera?????
What kind of odds would they give on that in Vegas?
Why bother.
suing Costco is Barbara Streisand
Not really as it was a Costco employee that triggered a swat like response from the police and the majority of witnesses disagree with Costco and LVPD's version of events.
And,lastly,I'd be curious to see if any toxicology tests were done in the autopsy (I'll wager there were)
There were and Scott was under the care of a pain management specialist for old injuries from military training and a car accident. The Coroner claims that he was on enough meds to outright kill someone. That is also in dispute.
Remember that the hearing only tells one side of the story.
In NYC and LA, police are found to have acted improperly in nearly half of all shootings. In Las Vegas, they are perfect - 0% error!
It is a pity LA & NYC don’t have the high standards of Las Vegas! < / sarcasm >
Will do - thanks!
Sorry Mr. S, but the target here is not all police.
It is three officers of the LVPD that are in question for their part in covering up what seems to be the result of an ‘improper kill’. Add to that the final bullet after he was down.
The LVPD is known for this type of response (covering up) and for always getting their man, even if it’s the wrong man.
Those are the issues that I am reading in the posts.
The drugs were for an injury while in the Army (he had been taking them for most of his adult life) and a recent car crash. People who have taken painkillers for 15 years don't respond to them the way you or I would - a point not made at the inquest. Think Rush Limbaugh.
In any case, I don't see how that justifies the cops shooting a man whose gun was still in its holster, nor the tactic of confronting him in a crowd as opposed to asking him if they can talk...
And... since the missing video might be proof of Costco's and the LVPD's guilt, it will nevermore exist. Had it provided proof they were not, it would have been on that night's news.
12 of 40 witnesses loosely agreed with the LVPD explanation that Scott reached for his waistband.
What did the other 28 say? Where is there 'statement'?
Is it in the same vault with the videocam footage, the zippered holster, and the Costco customer's cell/cam phones?
I caught that the day it happened. It is why I knew they were lying from day one about the Security cameras not working.
INDEED.
May the evil doers fall in their own pit . . . and pull all the dung in DC in on top of them.
Yeah, I know that too. I just gave a scoffer a good, legitimate reason for such a suit. On the other hand, communities need to be savvy enough to appoint honest and intelligent Judges who don’t tolerate “sue everybody”.
While I still fault the LVPD and COSTCO, for their actions and the coverup on this incident, I don't think that Scott is the total innocent in this case, nor his immediate family.
WHY would his girlfriend take him to COSTCO when he was almost unable to walk, talk, and think ? And why was she not sticking to him like glue, if he was having such difficulties.
Did he drive? (no one has bothered to ask that question yet)
I’ll be honest - I am very surprised that none of the ‘bystanders’ were hit and killed.
Of course, shooting a man in the back, multiple times, while he is on the ground does tend to reduce strays. But then I know a lot of cops whose motto is “Keep stroking the trigger till the slide locks back”
The civil trial is going to be a circus - at the least.
Thanks for the additional information.
“WHY would his girlfriend take him to COSTCO when he was almost unable to walk, talk, and think ?”
The family said they received multiple text messages from Scott while he was in the store, which would indicate he WASN’T “almost unable to walk, talk, and think”. If true, we’ll find that out in court, when both sides get a chance.
LVPD hasn’t built a 100% record of perfection in shooting by allowing both sides an airing...
I agree with you except for this. Mr. Scott was not asked to 'leave' the store, until they started asking everyone to leave. They weren't 'illegal' demands because any store can ask you to leave, and I don't think they have to give reason.
His girlfriend says that he was on his way to the car to put his guns away, because of the controversy.
IF TRUE, then it explains why she wasn't with him when he got shot.
The LV Metro PD needed a bunch of extra time to put together a nice smear package, so they postponed the inquest numerous times so they could dig up stuff like the back injury pain medications and the next door neighbor with the dog who bit Erik Scott.
During the kangarooinquest, the Metro smear artists showed charts which proved that Erik had multiple toxic doses of these drugs in his body.
When Moonman62 posted Metro's drug smear above, you'll notice that I asked him "So, can you explain why these two drugs didnt kill Erik Scott on the spot?" nearly an hour ago. While he had time to reply to you (you posted AFTER I did), he strangely didn't have to reply to me. Either he missed my post, or he's got an agenda.
Fortunately, Mr Rogers has shown a spotlight on the Metro "drug addict" smear tactic:
Scott was on prescription painkillers. If the prescription drugs affect your judgment, then it is illegal to carry. If they do not, it is legal to carry. At the inquest, Scott was accused of shopping for prescriptions, but there was no rebuttal allowed nor was it proven.
The drugs were for an injury while in the Army (he had been taking them for most of his adult life) and a recent car crash. People who have taken painkillers for 15 years don't respond to them the way you or I would - a point not made at the inquest. Think Rush Limbaugh.
You'll notice in the Metro smear that the "judgment" part about carrying falls out (because the casual dupe is taken in by the "drug-crazed addict" gambit - ala Rush Limbaugh), and that the part about increasing tolerance over time fell out, because then the "drug-crazed addict" case is easier to make.
What was laughable about Metro's experts was that they told the inquest that he had many times the toxic dose of both of those drugs in him - but they forgot to explain why.
Just as Moonman62 did...
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