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Pot penalties reduced in California
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | OCTOBER 1, 2010 | MATTHEW T. HALL AND HAILEY PERSINGER

Posted on 10/02/2010 1:31:18 AM PDT by South40

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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

No, it is not nonsense.
I have first hand experience of it happening to people I know, quite a few in fact. Most people I know who do or did drugs at one time have a story about getting something laced, myself included.

It isn’t an every day occurrence, but it is common enough that just about everyone has a story.


41 posted on 10/02/2010 5:05:43 AM PDT by counterpunch (End the Government Monopoly!)
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To: Doe Eyes

You still didn’t answer the simple question of whether or not you think it is a realistic consequence. Answer Yes, or no instead of changing the subject like a liberal who doesn’t want to answer.


42 posted on 10/02/2010 5:08:41 AM PDT by counterpunch (End the Government Monopoly!)
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To: counterpunch

I know people who have had things dropped into their legal alcohol...

There are lots of stories out there about women who have had “date rape” drugs slipped into their Coca-Cola.

I don’t see how giving government more police state control over marijuana is going to change that behavior...


43 posted on 10/02/2010 5:09:29 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Koalas are not mean.
I have met dozens, and there wasn’t a nasty one on the bunch.
They’re just very slow. On two fronts.


44 posted on 10/02/2010 5:10:46 AM PDT by counterpunch (End the Government Monopoly!)
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To: counterpunch

If you love Koalas so much, why not get one from Australia and grow some eucalyptus for them?


45 posted on 10/02/2010 5:14:06 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: counterpunch
Answer Yes, or no instead of changing the subject like a liberal who doesn’t want to answer.

You went from marijuana to koalas, ferrets and rattlesnakes...

But, you didn't justify why growing and feeding government intrusion is a good idea...

46 posted on 10/02/2010 5:16:50 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Who said it would?
I was just making a simple statement of fact regarding black market drugs.
You seem to have a knee-jerk defensiveness about this, and you really only shoot your own argument in the foot.

If pot was legal and regulated, as all things under the FDA are, then there wouldnt be any more laced pot. Bizzarely, you made the argument that unregulated black market drugs are 100% safe and clean. It undermines your case, and your credibility, because everyone knows that’s not true.


47 posted on 10/02/2010 5:18:01 AM PDT by counterpunch (End the Government Monopoly!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Because the Australian government outlawed owning koalas.
It used to be legal, but no more.
The exportation of koalas has always been tightly controlled.
The San Diego Zoo is the only place in the entire US that has some.
But you don’t get to meet them there like you do at any given animal sanctuary in AU.


48 posted on 10/02/2010 5:21:46 AM PDT by counterpunch (End the Government Monopoly!)
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To: counterpunch
If pot was legal and regulated, as all things under the FDA are, then there wouldnt be any more laced pot.

You must not be aware that the FDA refuses to approve a drug that has been proven to reduce tumors in breast cancer patients because it is "too expensive."

You must also not be aware that the FDA is wanting to approve genetically modified salmon as a consumer product...

More government is not the answer.

49 posted on 10/02/2010 5:22:25 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: counterpunch
You still didn’t answer the simple question of whether or not you think it is a realistic consequence.

No, I don't think that making Marijuana legal will cause smugglers to move to other drugs. Its capitalism, pure and simple.

If anything making marijuana cheaper should reduce the demand, and thus the price of other drugs. Without the profit motive, drug smuggling will be reduced.

Why is it you Liberal Peabrains don't understand capitalism?

50 posted on 10/02/2010 5:26:15 AM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: South40

“Californians are about to vote on Proposition 19 which, if passed, would legalize marijuana use.”

At the state level. Federally it’s still very much illegal.


51 posted on 10/02/2010 5:28:12 AM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: counterpunch

Yep, I also declare nonsense.

I know a lot of folks who have smoked on an off for many, many years and not one bad experience among them.

Seriously, why would any grower, distributor, or seller of marijuana spend $$$ to lace their already high profit margin product with another product?

I suspect you didn’t get pot laced with anything; rather, you smoked pot with a high THC content.


52 posted on 10/02/2010 5:30:56 AM PDT by imfleck
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To: CaspersGh0sts

Both sides of the marijuana issue is all about the addiction people have for more government control of something you should be able to grow in your garden like a tomato or cucumber.

“Tax, control and regulate” as the Prop. 19 proponents have adopted as their motto is just more police state politics that does nothing for anyone’s good...


53 posted on 10/02/2010 5:32:23 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

You have the real world problem then that under Proposition 19, government actually becomes far more involved with marijuana, not less.
Right now, they just slap you with an infraction and a fine. Under Prop 19, there would be a massive regulatory beauracracry, taxation, licensing, etc.

So does this mean you oppose Prop 19?


54 posted on 10/02/2010 5:32:30 AM PDT by counterpunch (End the Government Monopoly!)
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To: Doe Eyes

How does making marijuana cheaper reduce the price and demand of OTHER drugs? I guess by that logic, orange juice is also cheaper when milk goes on sale?


55 posted on 10/02/2010 5:35:00 AM PDT by counterpunch (End the Government Monopoly!)
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To: imfleck

If government wasn’t involved at all, the potheads would just dry up and blow away, but since people can’t give up having more control over others, the police state continues to grow,,,


56 posted on 10/02/2010 5:35:20 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: South40

A nearly identical decriminalization of marijuana has been “on the books” for two years in Massachusetts. There hasn’t been a corresponding increase in the abuse of other drugs as a direct effect of this law.

It’s a traffic ticket and it probably shouldn’t even be that.


57 posted on 10/02/2010 5:36:53 AM PDT by imfleck
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To: counterpunch

I oppose the sleight of hand on this issue...

Prop. 19 is just plain asinine.

If states cannot enforce legitimate federal laws on immigration, how can states repeal unconstitutional federal laws on vegetables?


58 posted on 10/02/2010 5:39:37 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: counterpunch
How does making marijuana cheaper reduce the price and demand of OTHER drugs?

It makes marijuana a cheaper high. Why spend big bucks for other illegal drugs?

Its the same with alcohol. Legal and relatively cheap. Make it illegal and expensive and users will move to other sources.

59 posted on 10/02/2010 5:43:01 AM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Doe Eyes
Its the same with alcohol. Legal and relatively cheap. Make it illegal and expensive and users will move to other sources.

More social engineering through government...

Tax the crap out of tobacco "for the children" and health care instead of tackling the addiction...

Tax the crap out of alcohol and have government controlled liquor sales (like Utah and Oregon) instead of completely revoking all driving privileges of drunk drivers for life.

Drunk driving is the rationale for such "control" but yet if you have enough money and insurance you can be a repeat offender with little consequence... Look at a late senator from Massachusetts...

60 posted on 10/02/2010 5:50:27 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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