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McDonald's May Drop Health Plan (but Obama said you could keep your plan!)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703431604575522413101063070.html?KEYWORDS=mcdonald%27s ^

Posted on 09/29/2010 6:55:58 PM PDT by macquire

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To: chilltherats

Most of the malpractice suits are bogus. Lawyers go after doctors and hospitals because there are the possibilites of collecting money. If there were no deep pockets that would cut way back and when a doctor was truely guilty of malpractice he’d lose his license. The way it is now it’s just a cash cow that you and I pay for.


61 posted on 09/30/2010 3:36:55 AM PDT by McGavin999 ("I was there when we had the numbers, but didn't have the principles"-Jim DeMint)
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To: macquire
McDonalds stated the report wasn't true but WSJ maintains they have the a copy of the letter that went to Washington.
62 posted on 09/30/2010 4:08:20 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: macquire

Bump.


63 posted on 09/30/2010 4:12:19 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: macquire

What I would do to never hear hear Obama said ever again.

How many campaign town halls is the idiot going to get heckled at? His bud Soros fixed the stock exchange for him and Obama still sucks.


64 posted on 09/30/2010 4:44:27 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: macquire

We should end employer based insurance and taxes.


65 posted on 09/30/2010 4:45:37 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (counter revolutionary)
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To: macquire

I’m Lovin’ It!


66 posted on 09/30/2010 5:36:08 AM PDT by WAW (Which enumerated power?)
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To: funfan
Starting in 2011 those so called benefits will have to be listed on your W-2 forms and I am not talking what the liberals are calling “Cadillac Plans” any insurance benifts from your employers you will be taxed on.

This is not true. See the information at http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/jun/10/chain-email/w-2-tax-forms-hr-3590-health-insurance-pay-taxes/

67 posted on 09/30/2010 5:36:45 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: macquire

It is clearly unconstitutional for the President to have this much discretion in interpreting a law. It was this kind of power that our constitution was designed to prevent.


68 posted on 09/30/2010 5:40:53 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi
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To: Uncle Miltie

You are getting a twofer: you’ll piss Moosechelle off too, eating at a fast food joint. :-)


69 posted on 09/30/2010 5:45:01 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Obad. 1:15: As you have done, it will be done to you; your deeds will return upon your own head.)
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To: macquire

Obamacare was designed to fail.

After this plan is a complete train-wreck, and the private insurance industry has been utterly destroyed, the Democrats can pick up the pieces and build the socialist single-payer system they always wanted.


70 posted on 09/30/2010 5:48:02 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Anything not about elephants is irrelephant.)
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To: thethirddegree

I’m not going to start an argument, but you were wrong.

Your w-2 will list you benefit amount. Currently, that isn’t taxable. Do you know that upcoming tax law? Of course not.

McDonald’s has never been a bad employer. Please, everyone, stop bashing them. They never had to offer any type of health insurance to employees, yet did. Now, it goes away due to Obama care.

I have a college aged child. Now, once he’s out into the working world, instead of making him responsible for once and paying his own health insurance, he can just remain on our policy, with the premium affecting the money that comes into this house. There is NO good in that bill. Nothing. Nobody can spin anything into “oh maybe that was needed”. It’s not. The pre-existing condition mandate isn’t going to be pretty, either. If you can’t afford tens of thousands in premiums and copays now, well, in a couple of years, you’ll have no choice.

Sorry for my rant, but I really do get irritated when I see even the smallest defense of this absolute atrocity of legislation.


71 posted on 09/30/2010 5:49:05 AM PDT by swpa_mom
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
When that bill was being passed back in March, millions of Americans should have stormed the capitol like the French did to the Bastille.

We did. They didn't listen...

72 posted on 09/30/2010 5:51:49 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Anything not about elephants is irrelephant.)
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To: Brilliant
The new McDonald’s healthcare plan: Have a Big Mac.

If you would rather McDonald's not employ all of those people, I guess they could fire them...

73 posted on 09/30/2010 5:53:40 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Anything not about elephants is irrelephant.)
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To: swpa_mom

I am NOT defending this abomination of a law, I am pleading that people make sure that what they post are the facts, not incorrect information from a chain-letter.


74 posted on 09/30/2010 5:56:11 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: South40

Exactly. We “can” keep our plans. They’ll just be unaffordable or someone else will make decisions that prevent us from keeping our plans. Employers, like MacDonalds in this ad, are not forced by the government to drop their plans. They will do so because it will be less expensive for them to do so.

In this case, the problem isn’t with McDonalds; it’s with their insurance carrier. The government says that all the premium money collected from employees must go 85% to coverage. The insurance company says it doesn’t like that because their costs are higher due to contant worker turnover in a business like McDonalds.

They probably are higher. The insurance company wants to keep its profit margin at a certain level.

The only way to do that would be for the corporation to begin paying the insrance company beyond what the worker premiums are, since any worker premium cost increase would still have to be spent 85% on actual coverage.


75 posted on 09/30/2010 5:56:11 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: swpa_mom

Excellent rant. Spot on!


76 posted on 09/30/2010 5:58:22 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: McGavin999; ClearCase_guy

Back in 2003, Thomas Sowell wrote a three-part series on the folly of “universal health care” and how we were better off back when doctors would charge you for their services directly. Sowell explained that during WWII the government imposed wage and price controls, which meant that employers were forbidden to offer higher wages to attract new workers, and they began to offer various benefits, including employer-paid health insurance, instead.

Here are the three (short) columns by Sowell on the subject (the third one is the one with the info regarding wage controls and the origin of employer-paid health insurance):

http://64.4.26.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=78e1759170a569d5547b0f454f99fc28&lat=1052492849&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2etownhall%2ecom%2fcolumnists%2fthomassowell%2fts20030508%2eshtml

http://64.4.26.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=78e1759170a569d5547b0f454f99fc28&lat=1052492849&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2etownhall%2ecom%2fcolumnists%2fthomassowell%2fts20030508%2eshtml

http://64.4.26.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=78e1759170a569d5547b0f454f99fc28&lat=1052492849&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2etownhall%2ecom%2fcolumnists%2fthomassowell%2fts20030508%2eshtml


77 posted on 09/30/2010 6:03:05 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: McGavin999
“It was during the wage freeze (Nixon?). It was the only way the employers could give their employees something extra.”

Is this true? Another classic case of how gov’t meddling ends up hurting the very people they supposedly want to help.

78 posted on 09/30/2010 6:05:57 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone
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To: Haiku Guy

Isn’t it so weird that the only thing the media reported about that was the spitting on a congressman that never happened? There was no mention of the opposition to the legislation itself.

The dumbing down of America is just about complete.


79 posted on 09/30/2010 6:47:54 AM PDT by swpa_mom
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To: muawiyah

>>What’s happened since that time is very simple ~ medicine has advanced and they can cure stuff you used to die from. That costs something.

Everybody always forgets that part. In 1966, your first heart attack was probably your last. Cancer was a death sentence. “Exploratory surgery” was the only way doctors could see what was going on inside you. There was no simple knee surgery to clean out the joint and get you back on your feet in hours. The list just goes on forever and it’s incredible to think of how far we’ve come.


80 posted on 09/30/2010 7:06:28 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Obama is like a rocket scientist....who's trying to do brain surgery with a hammer.)
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