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$9 Billion Subway-to-Sea Rip-off.( Choo-choo alert! )
L.A. Weekly ^ | Sep 23 2010 | Patrick Range McDonald

Posted on 09/27/2010 3:57:57 AM PDT by Leisler

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Politicians, unions, hooked up contractors, finance guys.

9 billion buys a lot of politics.

1 posted on 09/27/2010 3:57:59 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Leisler

To all that read this article, you should have seen the runup to, the combination of dances for the money, dances for the power that was the Alameda Street Corridor project in Los Angeles back in the ‘90’s.

It’s stated public purpose of getting the truck traffic off of the Freeway has yet to be achieved. Lots of money, lots of graft, lots of disappointment.

No rail project will I ever look upon with a positive eye after that experience.


2 posted on 09/27/2010 4:07:10 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Leisler; Willie Green
where's Waldo Willie
3 posted on 09/27/2010 4:10:15 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: rockinqsranch
Lots of money, lots of graft, lots of disappointment.

In other words, it worked like a charm.

4 posted on 09/27/2010 4:12:06 AM PDT by Wolfie
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Wonder what percentage 9 billion is toward balancing the out of balance state budget. Not that anyone living in CA cares, other than a few freepers and some other conservatives.


5 posted on 09/27/2010 4:12:48 AM PDT by wita
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Maybe the “subway to the sea” is appropriate given all the DIM/LIB lemmings in America.


6 posted on 09/27/2010 4:18:29 AM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: wita

Balanced budgets are just rest stops on the way to bigger budgets.


7 posted on 09/27/2010 4:20:59 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: Leisler

Is it the crook mentality, liberalism, communism, leftism, or just bad parenting that got us to this point?


8 posted on 09/27/2010 4:34:26 AM PDT by wita
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be grateful it’s not $18 billion

oh wait a bit and it will be!


9 posted on 09/27/2010 4:35:44 AM PDT by Enchante ("The great enemy of clear language is insincerity." -- George Orwell --)
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“9 billion buys a lot of politics.”

Imagine what 8 times that amount would buy. Boston’s Big Dig was supposed to cost $2.6B, but ended up costing $22B. I see no reason LA would be exempt from this sort of big project price creep.


10 posted on 09/27/2010 4:36:33 AM PDT by DrC
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Is it the crook mentality, liberalism, communism, leftism, or just bad parenting that got us to this point?

YES!

11 posted on 09/27/2010 4:40:20 AM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: from occupied ga

Free Willie!


12 posted on 09/27/2010 4:44:51 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: rockinqsranch

Tell us more than


13 posted on 09/27/2010 4:58:06 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Leisler

“Study Area vehicle miles traveled would be reduced by 0.57% compared to No Build,” the EIR tersely states.


14 posted on 09/27/2010 5:02:25 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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9 billion buys a lot of politics.

It also buys more miles of monorail than subway tunnels or freeway lanes.

15 posted on 09/27/2010 5:15:13 AM PDT by Willie Green (Some people march to a different drummer ~ and some people polka.)
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To: Willie Green

Monorail? Monorail!


16 posted on 09/27/2010 5:17:26 AM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: Wolfie

“In other words, it worked like a charm.”

Hardly could one say ...”it worked like a charm” for those that expected the results of the expense, the inconvenience of their streets, and communities along the way torn up for a number of years to make their lives safer, and so less polluted, etc. as was sold them.

But then too all too many don’t realize that liars lie. Government is so full of liars it’s a miracle anything of benefit to the public whom pay for it all exists.


17 posted on 09/27/2010 5:30:49 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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Monorail? Monorail!

Yes, tunneling for subways is very expensive.
You really don't want to tunnel unless you absolutely have to, (Like NYC or in the Mountains.)
Overhead Monorail is less expensive than subway tunnels.
Overhead Maglev would be even better!

18 posted on 09/27/2010 5:32:06 AM PDT by Willie Green (Some people march to a different drummer ~ and some people polka.)
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To: Willie Green
I lived there during the Northridge earthquake. Overhead rail would be a hard sell for most folks there.

But that wasn't the point of my post.

19 posted on 09/27/2010 5:44:15 AM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: wita

Balanced budgets are just rest stops on the way to bigger budgets.


20 posted on 09/27/2010 6:52:10 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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