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Cyber War on Iran: the Siemens Connection
Pajamas Media ^ | September 25, 2010 | Roger L. Simon

Posted on 09/26/2010 5:03:00 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 09/26/2010 5:03:02 AM PDT by Kaslin
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Hmmm ... yeah, I remember ... this is all OVER the news channels ...

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Why not an Iranian that sees/believes his nation is wrong and has done something about it ?

2 posted on 09/26/2010 5:12:46 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Kaslin

The problem is that computer viruses don’t respect national boundaries, nor do they particularly care about the ideologies of computer owners. Are the infrastructure systems of Europe and America any better protected than the Mullahs’ systems? Let’s hope we don’t find out the hard way.


3 posted on 09/26/2010 5:23:38 AM PDT by Clioman
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To: Kaslin
As you will recall, when Reagan’s national security adviser, in high dudgeon, reported on that Israeli action to the president, Reagan famously shrugged it off with a “boys will be boys.” It’s hard to imagine Obama being so blase about anything where Israel is concerned, Reagan was not being blase. It was his way of saying "stuff happens", especially when it comes to bad guy regimes who are threatening Israel.
4 posted on 09/26/2010 5:25:14 AM PDT by MrDem (Founder: Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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Incredible story. This may be the answers to our prayers. Those Israelis are nothing if not brilliant. To bring down the mullahs and dinner jacket with a USB plug??-—sheer genius. Long live the Israelis and their refusal to kow-tow to tyranny!


5 posted on 09/26/2010 5:26:40 AM PDT by NOBO2
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I remember when Reagan and Casey put “malware” in the Evil Empire’s oil and gas pipeline process control firmware. KABOOM!


6 posted on 09/26/2010 5:28:56 AM PDT by MrDem (Founder: Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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To: Kaslin

good post.


7 posted on 09/26/2010 5:33:45 AM PDT by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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My cousin has a collection of WW II militaria. Helmets and other metal parts of the Wehrmacht uniform came from Siemens.
8 posted on 09/26/2010 5:43:17 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Kaslin

Interesting article.

In one place the article reports 30,000 Iranian computers infected, and in another place it states 3000 computers infected. It would be good to know which number is the correct one.


9 posted on 09/26/2010 5:43:48 AM PDT by doyle
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good post.

I second that - somebody should do a book/movie on this.

10 posted on 09/26/2010 5:43:53 AM PDT by Ganndy (Government is the problem not the solution)
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I doubt Siemens had anything to do with Stuxnet. There are far easier ways for them to sabotage their own servers. Worse, if the Iranians traced the worm back to any involvement with Siemens, no one would trust them in one of Siemens’ core businesses (controlling centrifuges in nuclear reactors). Siemens would be - effectively - putting itself out of business.

And do not discount that NSA, DARPA, and others helped create Stuxnet in the first place. Also a great deal of US computer R & D takes place in Israel.

There is no need for the Eared One to have any knowledge of this program. There are items which are not revealed to a President simply because he is the President.

Particularly this one...

11 posted on 09/26/2010 5:57:56 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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The problem is that computer viruses don’t respect national boundaries, ...

Are you saying that 1's and 0's are the same in any language? Wow! The power of mathematics!

12 posted on 09/26/2010 6:07:06 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Kaslin

The article combines fiction w/reality to make it believeable. Mostly it is fiction.


13 posted on 09/26/2010 6:13:45 AM PDT by odds
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i had hoped the Israelis would neutralize the Iranian nuclear problem in an unconventional way. they don’t want to provoke a strike on their homeland. hope that is what is going on.


14 posted on 09/26/2010 6:44:10 AM PDT by avital2
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A few weeks back I read where the American military admitted that they had been the victim of a similar thumb drive cyber infection, which had the same devastating effect as the above article and the effects or damage lasted a few years.

If true and there were lessons learned, two years later meaning presently, the virus would be much improved, stronger and even more devastating.


15 posted on 09/26/2010 7:00:21 AM PDT by SanFranDan
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ping


16 posted on 09/26/2010 7:38:31 AM PDT by IncPen (Educating Barack Obama has been the most expensive project in human history.)
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To: odds
The article combines fiction w/reality to make it believeable. Mostly it is fiction.

It doesn't matter what you or I believe, it matters what the mullahs believe.

And if they have the slightest doubt-- or, better, the greatest fear-- that this worm could cause their reactors to blow up under them, I'm ok with that.

It's rather the whole point of it.

17 posted on 09/26/2010 7:52:54 AM PDT by IncPen (Educating Barack Obama has been the most expensive project in human history.)
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>>>”It doesn’t matter what you or I believe, it matters what the mullahs believe.”

Completely agree w/you. Unfortunately, “mullahs”, unlike most of us, know how to separate reality from fiction - in some instances, better than you or I, or the average person, regardless of country.


18 posted on 09/26/2010 8:01:55 AM PDT by odds
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Completely agree w/you. Unfortunately, “mullahs”, unlike most of us, know how to separate reality from fiction - in some instances, better than you or I, or the average person, regardless of country.

I don't disagree with your suggestion that there might be an intelligent mullah somewhere, but I'm going to go with the idea that they're paranoid and completely delusional-- based on the evidence I've seen-- and believe that the very idea that the Jew has infected their computers might cause them to forsake computers altogether.

If it wasn't such a dire situation, it would be hysterically funny.

19 posted on 09/26/2010 8:34:44 AM PDT by IncPen (Educating Barack Obama has been the most expensive project in human history.)
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lol, yep, would be good to see :)


20 posted on 09/26/2010 8:45:40 AM PDT by odds
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