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Gunned Down in Vegas: What Really Happened to Erik Scott?
Pajamas Media ^ | September 16, 2010 | Bob Owens

Posted on 09/17/2010 8:33:36 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 09/17/2010 8:33:39 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

police crimes
legalized gangs
think they are soooooooooooooo tough
never call them if you need help
they come too late
they shoot you instead
they love to exercise their power
they have sh8t for brains


2 posted on 09/17/2010 8:37:42 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys)
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To: Kaslin

Building up to blowback. So wrong, so easily avoided.


3 posted on 09/17/2010 8:40:04 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Detente with the GOP - trust, but verify.)
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To: yldstrk

If you call the police, do so in the expectation that you will go to jail. Because whenever the police are called anywhere, they are looking to arrest someone. Their attitude isn’t to find the truth, it’s to make an arrest for their stats.

You’ll do.


4 posted on 09/17/2010 8:41:04 AM PDT by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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“In the past 34 years, only one Metro officer has ever been found to have acted improperly out of at least 190 inquests, and that officer wasn’t charged with a crime.”

How wonderful that we have a municipality where the Police almost NEVER act improperly!/s

They sure look out for their own.

5 posted on 09/17/2010 8:41:42 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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“In the past 34 years, only one Metro officer has ever been found to have acted improperly out of at least 190 inquests, and that officer wasn’t charged with a crime.”

The same result will happen again. We are living in a police state.


6 posted on 09/17/2010 8:42:14 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: yldstrk

I hate these stories. First because this seems a senseless killing of a man who did nothing wrong. Second because it gives a reason for people to come out and paint all police offers as villains.


7 posted on 09/17/2010 8:43:14 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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WHERE ARE THE COSTCO SECURITY TAPES ???????
8 posted on 09/17/2010 8:43:50 AM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: Kaslin
oops.

i have two cousins whom graduated wp.

something went real bad. in my experience these men and women never exhibit erratic behaviour.

i find my experience is not worth much, lately.

9 posted on 09/17/2010 8:44:14 AM PDT by mmercier (my head grew heavy and my sight dimmed)
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To: Kaslin

Murder. RIP Erik Scott. The real war is on our second amendment... it is going to get worse before it gets better. Bank on it.


10 posted on 09/17/2010 8:44:47 AM PDT by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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“To hear the side of the story presented by Scott’s family, friends, and some eyewitnesses, Erik Scott’s death was the result of ignorance and embellishment on the part of the Costco staff, and a combative, deterministic mindset from responding officers.”

“We do not know precisely what was said in that important call, because the police have refused to release it. We do, however, know from police radio traffic picked up by a scanner that the guard had told police that Erik Scott was armed with a gun, was acting aggressively and erratically, and that he may have been under the influence of drugs.”

Second paragraph just CONFIRMS the first paragraph.


11 posted on 09/17/2010 8:45:05 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Kaslin

These criminals (police) should be facing the death penalty.


12 posted on 09/17/2010 8:45:21 AM PDT by exnavy (May the Lord grant our troops protection and endurance.)
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To: brytlea

in my work I deal with cops all the time and lately they have morphed into a bunch of knuckleheads


13 posted on 09/17/2010 8:47:40 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys)
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First because this seems a senseless killing of a man who did nothing wrong

Well, playing devils advocate, if the store's policy is no guns (with a sign stating such) and you're found to have one on your person, then you should leave. Regardless if you have a CCW or not.

Here in The Peoples Rep. of Ct, if you don't comply, the cops will come & at the very least you'll be charged with disorderly conduct/trespassing.

Prayers to the families.

14 posted on 09/17/2010 8:48:10 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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Sounds like the security guard wasn’t trained properly regarding the law and procedures regarding confrontation of a possible situation(not probable). His call to 911 was probably frantic(why else would so many cops show up). There is a lot more to this incident than we know, cops want to protect themselves and the family wants the truth.


15 posted on 09/17/2010 8:48:56 AM PDT by shadeaud ("If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin B)
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Hopefully this case will be different as I believe Erik Scott’s dad sounds like a determined man based on other articles I’ve read. Clearly the Metro PD is out of control with some real hotshots out on the street.

Costco also shares real blame in this tragedy with the hysterical call and the ensuing coverup, especially with the video. I’ll never set foot in a Costco again.


16 posted on 09/17/2010 8:49:13 AM PDT by bereanway
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I went through a SF pistol course. Kicking in doors, not shooting the ‘prisoner’, that kind of thing. After a while you get conditioned to aquire targets real fast. Well, that’s when the instructors started to mess with you. They put groceries in the terrorists hands, and pistols in the lady ‘prisoner’s hands. This was the second part of the course where they trained you to see what you saw, not what you expected or were jacked up to see. They wanted to burn into you that your mind would play tricks on you.

I don’t think police get that kind of training. They just seem to get a minimal...’Drop the...( bang bang ) gun, and do( bang bang )...’.

I’ve seen plenty of video arrests where one jacked up officer is yelling ‘put your hands up’, another is yelling ‘Don’t move’ and a third is yelling ‘ get down, get down’, while the first officer who yelled ‘get your hands up’ is getting mad because the subject is sort of hands up, down, not moving, getting down, not getting down.


17 posted on 09/17/2010 8:49:49 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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Every single person involved in this debacle deserves and indictment, prosecution, and if they fired a shot a very lengthy prison sentence at a minimum and the death penalty at the maximum.

I'm sick and tired of trigger happy cops with their "command" mindsets killing innocent people. If that doesn't happen I hope someone somewhere sets the idiots responsible for this mans death up for some real personal payback.

18 posted on 09/17/2010 8:50:07 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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Just as I said the next day after this occurred, the witnesses near him said police shouted conflicting commands and then shot him before he could do much of anything.

12 of 40 witnesses, who likely weren’t in a position to see what was going on, agreed with the police version of events.


19 posted on 09/17/2010 8:51:05 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (lame and ill-informed post)
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Did you read the article? There was no sign and he was fully legal. I’m not sure what the penalty there is for letting the gun be shown at all though, even accidently. In Texas it used to be fairly severe, but I think they’ve lightened up on it over the years. I still do everything I can do avoid that. If I know someone saw me carrying, I’d be out of there so fast..

Still, there really need to be tapes released here. I’m 99% sure this was a murder.


20 posted on 09/17/2010 8:51:17 AM PDT by Tolsti2
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