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Feds nab 19 Pagans in 5 states after 21-month probe unveils plot to kill rival Hells Angels
Philadelphia Daily News ^ | 09/16/2010 | JASON NARK

Posted on 09/16/2010 2:57:16 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen

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To: terycarl; Salamander
I find the Crips, Bloods, MS13 & other groups to be far more dangerous. Why aren't the Feds taking them down? They too deal in guns, meth, drugs etc. The idiots as you call them aren't all idiots. FYI the Hells Angels have members who are quite educated. They also make quite a bit of money off their sales of t shirts & other items. Quite legal & profitable..

Most bikers I know are there to give blood, help a child in need & do the toys for tots runs each Xmas. Not to mention supporting our soldiers & helping out families of killed bikers. Most of them do have day jobs & not all are idiots. Sure there are some that are. No denying that. However I would rather have the HA or the Pagans on my side then not. I've found if you leave them alone for the most part they will leave you alone. As for them knowing their kids, well the ones I know actually do. If you were to come across any I suggest you walk on by with an attitude as yours. Do you know any real 1%ers?

I agree we need to get the illegals under control & lets add the muslims too. I say they are more of a threat then bikers.

21 posted on 09/16/2010 11:04:40 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted and used against you)
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To: terycarl

Another FYI most of the Pagans I knew were Vietnam vets who really got messed up in that war. They came home totally hated & confused. Weren’t accepted by people like you so they grouped together & were accepted by men like themselves.


22 posted on 09/16/2010 11:11:33 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted and used against you)
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To: terycarl

Trust me man, biker gangs are not only threats to each other. I’ve known some of these types, and they don’t limit their violence and crimes only to pursuit of their little rivalries.

Illegal immigrants are a problem on a much bigger scale though, you are totally right about that.


23 posted on 09/17/2010 12:29:44 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: pandoraou812

I find the Crips, Bloods, MS13 & other groups to be far more dangerous. Why aren’t the Feds taking them down

I know a few bikers myself and most are fun loving good people...that having been said, the hard line troublemakers within their ranks are totally worthless. The feds are after those groups that you mentioned but we ignored them far too long and let them gain far too much momentum. I work in the department of corrections in Indiana and have been warning for years for a zero tolerance policy concerning gang activity. Most of their members are really bad guy wannabes and would follow anyone anywhere. They have no idea of what they are doing. The bad guys, however, are really bad guys and must be dealt with accordingly.


24 posted on 09/17/2010 7:40:09 PM PDT by terycarl (interested and informed)
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I feel this way about clubs & I have many 1%er friends. #1 I don’t want to hear their business. #2 I stay away from large groups #3 I am anti drug so I don’t know what they do. There are leaders & followers & I see that very clearly in clubs. Seems to me the leaders aren’t that bright lately. Years ago when I hung out more with them they had better leadership. Now things are just out of hand & the followers are pretty damn stupid. I wouldn’t die or go to jail for a club but I am just a woman lol. However bikers are pretty loyal to the country & if need be we might need some of that.( God I hope not.)


25 posted on 09/17/2010 9:04:47 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted and used against you)
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