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Mistress Ordered to Pay $5.8 Million
WNCT.com ^ | 09/10/2010 | Shantel Middleton

Posted on 09/10/2010 5:56:33 PM PDT by OldDeckHand

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To: TheOldLady

I never took stats. All I know is she has not solved her issues. What is beyond me is how she is able to find man after man after man to seriously date and even (obviously 4 times anyway) wed her. And, as if you can’t guess... #1 was the best in the bunch.


61 posted on 09/12/2010 11:43:31 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Dr. Sivana

You know what, I was coming back to this thread to doublecheck something and just saw this post. For some reason I missed it before. I’d like to comment since I think it’s important. You said that the onus is on the one doing the tempting which is why this tort exists - to be able to sue the tempter. Well, this is very similar to the liberal stuff about hate crimes or some way-out-there stuff I’m even hearing about penalizing people who “might” do a crime.

What I’d really like to know is how does one prove who is tempting who? People make eye contact so who is at fault. A lot of times, the “other woman” might be giving a man THE look but who walks over to her and buys her a drink? It could be the man, so he is inviting temptation. God gives everyone a chance to turn away. Like I said before, nobody involved in an affair is innocent so I find it very interesting when people try to heap all the blame on the person who is outside the marriage. Nobody has once talked about a man invading a marriage by cheating on the wife. Everyone on this thread keeps talking about women.

I assume you are a man, Dr. Sivana. Maybe you are a woman, but I am always amazed how two women will scratch each others’ eyes out over some man while the man gets off scott-free.


62 posted on 09/15/2010 6:31:09 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Outlaw Woman

Men are weak and driven by animal instincts?

You’re thinking of Democrats.


63 posted on 09/15/2010 6:36:50 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Mamzelle

Good post, Mamzelle.


64 posted on 09/15/2010 6:43:17 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Paved Paradise
You said that the onus is on the one doing the tempting which is why this tort exists - to be able to sue the tempter.

If a man or woman is married, then others should know that person is off-limits. In my posts I grouped the milkman in with the secretary.

I also mentioned that there is no good way for the innocent married person to punish the guilty spouse. Put him in jail? Make her pay you money? I suppose that the innocent spouse could "sue" the guilty one. Practically speaking, it happens all the time in civil divorce.

I would like to do away with or severely restrict "no fault" divorce, and that is not a terribly liberal idea. So the guilty spouse might get divorced against his will. I see no problem with filing a tort against someone who wrecked your life through that person's knowing misbehavior. If that happened more often, we might see less of it.

The idea is to try to save the marriage. In the not so old days, there were actually laws against adultery, and in some states fornication. If you grant that damage is done, and the guilty 3rd party can be found liable, what good would allowing a civil action against your own spouse do?
65 posted on 09/15/2010 7:07:55 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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re: Like I said before, nobody involved in an affair is innocent so I find it very interesting when people try to heap all the blame on the person who is outside the marriage.)))

Since when does the "other woman" get all the blame? She doesn't get any at all. Seems to me that she gets all the prizes and celebrations, while the honest wife gets dumped on. Look at McCain's first wife, Julia Robert's husband's first wife, Elizabeth Edwards... Frankly, when I first "went off" on Sanford's Argentine prostitute all the FR guys lined up to make excuses for her, mostly on the "not guilty" meme. (She's too hot to be guilty) She looked hardly better than the cheapest porn queen to me. And the damage she did to so many people was incredible...just hearing the jeers of liberals at Sanford's sanctimony was enraging.

I got arguments that suggested somehow that the woman was not to be held to any moral standard at all, like she was mentally defective, underage, etc. As a woman, that's insulting. Women are adults, and when they destroy a family they're just plain low-down immoral cats in heat.

Mark Sanford really didn't mind seeing his good wife humiliated, his children made to look ridiculous, his party made into fools, his conservative supporters like hypocritical idiots...but he really, really would have minded his skanky tramp dragged out and put in the stockade...

66 posted on 09/15/2010 7:17:45 PM PDT by Mamzelle (Cameras, cameras--never forget to bring your cameras)
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I assume you are a man, Dr. Sivana. Maybe you are a woman, but I am always amazed how two women will scratch each others’ eyes out over some man while the man gets off scott-free.

This statement brings to mind the line about what a man would do if he found his wife "in flagrante delicto" ... He responds, "I'll KILL him!"

A woman asked what she would do if she found her husband in the same situation responded the same ... "I'll KILL him!"

For the record, I am a happily married man, and my religious beliefs would render in my conscience any adultery a mortal sin for which I could burn in hell. If I was tempted by someone artful and aggressive, it might lower the thermostat a bit, but nothing more. It would be a grave injustice to the people whom I love the most, my wife and children, and whom I am morally obliged to support and defend.
67 posted on 09/15/2010 7:25:44 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I hold my vows in similar stead. I love my husband way too much to ever hurt him in any way. It’d kill me.


68 posted on 09/16/2010 6:10:35 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise; Outlaw Woman

Perfect muslim logic. Men can’t control themselves, wrap those women in a burka.


69 posted on 09/16/2010 6:19:27 PM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Why all the assumptions>?

Married men have been known to leave off wedding rings and lie to unsuspecting women. Of course, there are women who for ego reasons or other neurotic reasons want to bed a married man or cause havoc and trouble.

It bears repeating. Short of rape, adultery is a two way street. Two people. Both equally guilty. In some ways, the married party’s sin is more grievous because vows were spoken (at least if it was a religious union). If there are children involved, all the worse.

I think you and I agree on the point that adultery is very serious - it destroys lives and families and undermines society. As a society, we should frown on it and it should not be glorified. Yet, television and the movies are filled with adultery that shows no consequences. I think that’s our real problem.


70 posted on 09/16/2010 6:20:07 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Dr. Sivana

Well, a wife might say that but in reality what one sees is the two women fighting it out. Just watch Judge Judy and you’ll see case after case of all these girls keying other girls’ cars, beating up girls, getting in cat fights, etc. because the other girl cheated with their “man.” So much for killing the man. I love Judy and she has said it over and over again, “Why don’t you go after the idiot boyfriend?”


71 posted on 09/16/2010 6:22:54 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: ladyjane

LOL!!! Ladyjane that is the best comment on this entire thread.


72 posted on 09/16/2010 6:25:07 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Mamzelle

A lot of people did rip on Rielle. She is hated. The “other woman” is very often held in low regard. Just because our media has a love affair with sin, don’t think the rest of the world thinks it is okay. In fact, in reality, the “other woman” is scorned more frequently than not. If it’s the “other man” you just never hear about it. Keep in mind that a good number of adulterous relationships are between parties who are both married, so both are breaking their vows. Of course, in today’s secular society, true vows are often not even taken. People write up silly little promises to each other that sometimes end up meaning very little.


73 posted on 09/16/2010 6:31:05 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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