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Contest of the century (China vs India: Whose future is brighter?)
The Economist ^ | 09/03/2010

Posted on 09/04/2010 7:13:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 09/04/2010 7:13:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Well, we KNOW it won’t tbe the U.S.. My guess is China will be the winner! China LOVES capitalism!


2 posted on 09/04/2010 7:15:13 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: SeekAndFind

Having just gotten of the phone to India I would say that Neither China nor India have anything on the USA.

India is has more democracy than the USA to the point of perpetual stalemate and China has authoritarianism to the point of impossible freedom.

I say we still lead the world

For all its faults a man can be free here


3 posted on 09/04/2010 7:19:57 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1 Halfbaked 50c)
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very well said.
4 posted on 09/04/2010 7:32:35 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: SeekAndFind

Food and water. China is running out of the latter and will soon run out of the former.


5 posted on 09/04/2010 7:34:21 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: Chode

My Brother has squatters on his land in India.
He doesnt dare run then off because they will be slitting his throat as he sleeps in retaliation.

It is an odd place.

China? well we all know about China.


6 posted on 09/04/2010 7:41:18 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1 Halfbaked 50c)
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To: SeekAndFind

Both countries are crapholes


7 posted on 09/04/2010 7:47:33 AM PDT by Catholic Canadian
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To: Former Proud Canadian

RE: Food and water. China is running out of the latter and will soon run out of the former.


If this is true, then, from an investment point of view, we need to invest in the stocks of FERTILIZER and AGRIBUSINESS companies. China will be desperate to either buy them/own them or buy their products in bulk.

Time for you to go back and look at some Canadian companies like Potash or Agrium.


8 posted on 09/04/2010 7:49:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Former Proud Canadian

They have been poisoning their water in China with pollution of massive quantities. Factories continue to dump their waste everywhere in the name of progress there.
Oh well,


9 posted on 09/04/2010 7:50:15 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ")
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RE: Both countries are crapholes


This article is talking about the future, not what they are now.

Wasn’t most of the USA a craphole 150 years ago ?

Remember the wild west? Remember when we killed each other by the hundreds of thousands when Lincoln was President ?


10 posted on 09/04/2010 7:51:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: nmh

RE: China LOVES capitalism!


Have you observed the IT business in the USA and how many INDIANS there are HERE in the USA doing it ?


11 posted on 09/04/2010 7:53:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

We had to go through a civil war before we eventually became the world leader.

I predict China is destined for the same.


12 posted on 09/04/2010 7:57:10 AM PDT by webstersII
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“Remember the wild west?”

You should look into American history some more.

The ‘Wild West’ wasn’t that wild. Sure, people had guns, but with the exception of some frontier and Gold Rush towns, the West was a generally peaceful place. The only violence was mostly by bandits out away from civilized areas, and rape and violence against women was rare.

The average medium-sized city today has more crime, with its drug, organized crime, and gang violence, than people would have put up with back then. The murder rate at the turn of the 20th century IIRC was about 1/5 of what it is today.

Furthermore, the standard of living of most people in the US in the 19th century was quite good, except for many people in the South, due to slavery bringing down the wages for everyone.


13 posted on 09/04/2010 8:05:25 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: SeekAndFind

Depends on whether China or Japan will suck America dry faster as US trans-national corporations continue to trade away our country for profit and cheap consumer goods.


14 posted on 09/04/2010 8:12:41 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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Food and water are basic. You die without either.

Do some research about China's freshwater resources. They don't have many. They could alleviate this situation by building nuclear power plants on the coast to produce fresh water from seawater, but they aren't doing this.

Agriculturally, China was starving a few decades ago. Now their population is much greater and they are feeding themselves, but for how long? If their farming sector falters they are rich enough to import food for a while. But if their water resources are poor, how long can agriculture grow?

And yes, Canada has abundant water and agricultural resources. Also lots and lots of energy. Aren't you lucky your northern neighbor is a friend and ally with a functioning conservative government, a growing economy that doesn't produce refugees, seemingly endless resources, and a bright economic future? Gee, Canada is almost as lucky as the US in that regard.

15 posted on 09/04/2010 8:21:52 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: webstersII

Yes, some areas of China already ignore the central government. It might break up just like the big bad USSR did.


16 posted on 09/04/2010 8:23:41 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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"China is today the largest producer of engineering graduates in the world, with some 600,000 passing out of its colleges and universities last year."

"India, it seems, isn't far behind."

"According to the All India Council for Technical Education, India produced 401,791 engineers in 2003-04, 35 per cent being computer engineers. In 2004-05, the number of engineering graduates increased to 464,743, of which 31 per cent were computer engineers."

"Compared to India and China, the United States produces only 70,000 engineering graduates every year. All of Europe produces just 100,000."


I think the above says that India may eventually pull ahead of the US and China...

All of the Indian engineers I knew were much better than the Chinese ones I knew. The culture of an inquisitive mind comes into play...

17 posted on 09/04/2010 8:28:20 AM PDT by az_gila (AZ - one Governor down... we don't want her back...)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

“Aren’t you lucky your northern neighbor is a friend and ally”

I wish we had another Canada on our southern border.


18 posted on 09/04/2010 9:41:44 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: SeekAndFind; Catholic Canadian
This article is talking about the future, not what they are now.

Maybe. I think it's not very wise to consider India a "crap hole". I live more comfortably in Bangalore, KA than in San Jose, CA.

19 posted on 09/04/2010 10:51:01 AM PDT by altair (Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent - Salvor Hardin)
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Have you observed the IT business in the USA and how many INDIANS there are HERE in the USA doing it ?

The H1B program has been a miserable disaster. Most of those Indians have blue passports now.

Immigration to the US needs reform, but that means real reform not legalizing criminals who entered the country illegally.

20 posted on 09/04/2010 10:56:16 AM PDT by altair (Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent - Salvor Hardin)
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