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Army probes soldiers skipping Christian concert
Yahoo ^ | Aug 20, 2010 | STEVE SZKOTAK

Posted on 08/21/2010 4:32:22 AM PDT by tlb

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To: DJ MacWoW

That was so cute! :)


101 posted on 08/21/2010 7:01:58 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: LomanBill

Since Jefferson had nothing to do with his memorial, your premise is invalid.


102 posted on 08/21/2010 7:04:51 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
The high schoolers where my daughter went to school loved Veggie Tales. I like the song "We are the Pirates that don't do anything". LOL

VeggieTales Pirates Who Don't Do Anything

103 posted on 08/21/2010 7:10:36 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: trisham
>>Jefferson had nothing to do with his memorial
 
Jefferson's words are written all over his memorial.
 
Including these...
 
...from the Virginia Act for Establishing Religious Freedom.
 
Just a Coinkdink? 
 
Perhaps in the trisham NewSpeak revisionist history - those words were  just accidently written on the wall by a bunch of monkeys with a stone chisel!  
 
 
 
 

104 posted on 08/21/2010 7:14:34 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

My daughter likes veggie tales; they’re cute and harmless stories and sometimes even manage some scriptural content.

Too bad none of them manages to articulate the Gospel though.

Come to think of it... neither have you.

Why is that?


105 posted on 08/21/2010 7:18:13 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: freebilly

A Christian sex party? Killer...!


No son, it was not Christians, it was people who were lost.


106 posted on 08/21/2010 10:33:54 PM PDT by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofs)
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To: LomanBill

Yet revisionist religionists like you still insist upon doing so - while IGNORING what Jefferson wrote, in his own hand, in his AUTObiography:


If they rejected Jesus, that was their problem, i do not reject Jesus or the gospel, i just reject the modern so called Christian concerts, if it was like the ones i have witnessed.


107 posted on 08/21/2010 10:44:13 PM PDT by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofs)
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To: LomanBill

I do not believe in the masons, or any other kind of religion, i just believe in God and his son. and from what i have read about some of the founders, they believed in God but they did not believe in religion.


108 posted on 08/21/2010 10:55:39 PM PDT by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofs)
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To: DJ MacWoW
>>you sure are not very conservative.
You've evidently confused conservatism with subjugation.
>>they could worship freely,
That's right FREELY - without the State "church" of England's boot upon their neck.
", in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination."
-Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, in reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom
http://www.history1700s.com/etext/html/texts/jefferson/jeff1.txt
FREELY -  without fear of this kind of crap...
"Following the trial, on 23 August 1305, Wallace was taken from the hall, stripped naked and dragged through the city at the heels of a horse to the Elms at Smithfield. He was hanged, drawn and quartered — strangled by hanging but released while he was still alive, eviscerated and his bowels burnt before him"
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Wallace#Capture_and_execution
...all under the sanctioned religionist authority of the State "church" of England.
 
 

109 posted on 08/21/2010 10:59:53 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: tlb

The lack of the “alleged” in this article is kind of “funny.”


110 posted on 08/21/2010 11:00:20 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: TheRobb7
BarlowGirl is a three-girl band that played out our Youth Conference a few years ago.

They don’t preach at, or to, the audience during their shows.

Fair enough.

Thesing their songs, tell what Jesus did for them, and then leave.

Ummmmmm... Speaking as a Christian...that's preaching.

111 posted on 08/21/2010 11:06:19 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: ravenwolf

>>they believed in God but they did not believe in religion.

That’s my observation as well.

>>I do not believe in the masons

I’m not a mason - but I do believe the lodges in America served a purpose before the legal protections of the 1st amendment were set in place.

They’re as fallible, and as prone to corruption, as any other human institution. With instances where the secrecy provided was abused - often harboring Fire in the Minds of Men - but usually only managing to burn down the village with it.... or worse.


112 posted on 08/21/2010 11:09:16 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo; Lucius Cornelius Sulla
We need to avoid the performer-audience relationship in worship.

Are you suggesting that Jesus and the apostles were in error when they sang psalms together after the last supper, before our Lord was crucified?

113 posted on 08/21/2010 11:12:49 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: DJ MacWoW
>>And you completely ignore things like this:
"The foundation of our national policy will be laid in the pure and immutable principles of private morality; ...the propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself has ordained..." George Washington, First Inaugural, April 30 1789
I don't ignore it.  I understand what private means.
 
 

114 posted on 08/21/2010 11:27:58 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill

What is your actual experience in/with the US Military?


115 posted on 08/21/2010 11:33:06 PM PDT by 4Godsoloved..Hegave (Trusting God is a full time job, He is on duty 24/7 .)
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To: ravenwolf

>>If they rejected Jesus

They didn’t reject Jesus. They rejected including coercive language in The Virginia Act for the Establishment of Religious Freedom.

Their objective was to Establish religious FREEDOM - not just another Religious State.

I think many of them, including Jefferson, recognized - for themselves - that Jesus IS the Truth. But they also recognized the RIGHT of others to find and see that Truth with their own eyes and FREE minds; or NOT.


116 posted on 08/21/2010 11:35:34 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: 4Godsoloved..Hegave

1986 to 1992 with various elements of the ARNG.

What’s yours?


117 posted on 08/21/2010 11:48:16 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Grizzled Bear

“They sing their songs, tell what Jesus did for them, and then leave.”

“Ummmmmm... Speaking as a Christian...that’s preaching.”

No, that’s testifying. They are simply telling what happened to them.

Preaching takes that to the next level by urging a committment from the audience.

That’s not what BarlowGirl does.


118 posted on 08/22/2010 5:48:22 AM PDT by TheRobb7 (BLAMING BUSH NEVER FED A HUNGRY CHILD.)
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To: LomanBill

Their objective was to Establish religious FREEDOM - not just another Religious State.


Makes sense to me.


119 posted on 08/22/2010 7:16:29 AM PDT by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofs)
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To: dfwgator

I think most so-called “Christian” acts are people who couldn’t make it in the secular music world and so they try the Christian music thing.

Hey, it worked for Katy Perry.


Thats the way it looks to me also.


120 posted on 08/22/2010 7:21:12 AM PDT by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofs)
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