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Bush drug plan beats cost mark
The Washington Times ^ | 08-16-10 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 08/16/2010 6:29:09 PM PDT by GOP_Lady

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To: GOP_Lady
"I also did not believe private plans would come and offer their wares. Frankly, I'm perfectly willing to say I was wrong."...and this is the difference in the Bush approach and Obama's - Bush relied on private companies to offer their wares at competitive prices, which have come in lower than predicted - Obama hopes eventually to drive the private insurers away and put them out of business, which will leave the government as the only payer for health care - and then prices will really take off....
41 posted on 08/16/2010 9:19:54 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: A.Hun
I can’t prove it, but I know that providing people with the right medication saves hospital stays....and saves money in the long run.

Yes, it is much cheaper to pay for insulin than a foot amputation or take care of someone that has gone blind. It is also much less expensive to pay for heart medication than to pay for open heart surgery and rehabilitation.

Would I prefer an end to the socialist/communist programs? Absolutely! However, that is never going to happen, so at least steal as little as possible from the taxpayers to cover the unconstitutional promises that have been made.

42 posted on 08/16/2010 10:03:19 PM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: GOP_Lady
Tanks. ;*)

I've been tracking this for awhile.

43 posted on 08/16/2010 10:07:35 PM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: tobyhill
There's a difference in that Obamacare is an Unconstitutional mandate and the prescription drug plan is not.

Where does the Constitution authorize a national prescription drug plan for seniors, in your opinion?

44 posted on 08/17/2010 12:07:16 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

I never said the Constitution did. What’s your point? Seniors can take it or not but again no one is forcing the Seniors to take it.


45 posted on 08/17/2010 3:27:18 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: Just A Nobody

I agree with your post.

I would have preferred the government stay out of prescription drugs completely, but am proud of the way GWB and the Repubs handled this, and have been since it passed.

This is one program that has been used to tag GWB and the Repubs as “big spenders” which is just a media driven “big” lie.

Obama and the Dems have shown us what “big spenders” really means.


46 posted on 08/17/2010 5:04:59 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: GOP_Lady

I think the plan was just so damn confusing that a lot of people gave it a pass.


47 posted on 08/17/2010 5:09:20 AM PDT by Puddleglum ("due to the record harvest, rationing will continue as usual")
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To: Puddleglum
"One reason the 2003 bill has come in under budget is that fewer people are signing up for the voluntary program."

"Initial projections anticipated more than 43 million beneficiaries by 2009, but actual figures from the Medicare trustees' annual report, released earlier this month, showed just 33.4 million took part last year."

48 posted on 08/17/2010 5:15:38 AM PDT by Puddleglum ("due to the record harvest, rationing will continue as usual")
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To: A.Hun
I would have preferred the government stay out of prescription drugs completely, but am proud of the way GWB and the Repubs handled this

Dittos.

Last night I searched some of my files from an old computer looking for the research I had done on this. Couldn't find it, but IIRC, the Rats were hell bent on instituting a drug benefit package -- a precursor to commie healthcare -- that in no way would use the free market. Instead of letting them push their boondoggle through, President Bush and the republicans seized the issue and created the program we now have. Of course the commies went ahead with their commie healthcare anyway, but at least our side tried.

49 posted on 08/17/2010 6:17:43 AM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: Ken H
Where does the Constitution authorize a national prescription drug plan for seniors, in your opinion?

If I'm not mistaken it is listed right next to the authorization to take over private industry and shaft the shareholders, for Socialist Security, Medicare/caid, progressive income tax, unemployment benefits for life, generational welfare, the RIGHT to murder your child, the RIGHT to "own" a home even if you can't or won't pay for it, the RIGHT to disability payments from the productive citizens, the RIGHT to marry whomever or whatever you deem necessary...

I realize there are many things missing, but I've gotta run!

50 posted on 08/17/2010 6:32:30 AM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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Medicare, social security, etc. are not for the greater good. They break down the family in the US. They remove the desire for people to have children. But most socialists care about materialism more than the will of God. Being in favor of these entitlement programs is repugnant.


51 posted on 08/17/2010 6:19:32 PM PDT by impimp1
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To: STARWISE

W PING!


52 posted on 08/17/2010 7:56:09 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady; Just A Nobody; 1Peter2:16; 2Trievers; 4integrity; 4mycountry; A_perfect_lady; ...

Thank you ! Thank you, President Bush.
In these days especially, seniors need
this to survive.

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From 2008
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Medicare Drug Spending Drops $6B
Posted on: Friday, 31 October 2008

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Excerpt:

U.S. Medicare prescription drug spending fell $6 billion to $44 billion this year due to a widespread use of low-cost generic drugs, the government said.

Another reason is that 2 million fewer participants than originally forecast participate in the program, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services’ Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services said.

Some senior citizens decided to keep existing drug coverage, Medicare said. In addition, fewer poor people enrolled than expected.

A benefit to the 32 million participating seniors: Their monthly premium for basic drug coverage was an average $26.70 in 2008 — a third less than forecast, Medicare said.

“The program’s been a success,” David Certner, legislative policy director for the AARP senior advocacy group, told USA Today.

“After the initial confusion at the launch, it started delivering many benefits people need,” he said.

http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/1595923/medicare_drug_spending_drops_6b/index.html


53 posted on 08/17/2010 8:12:41 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: poobear
almart Pharmacies work just fine. Get a 3 month prescription, 20 bucks!

That's what I was going to say. I'm betting that Wal-Mart has had more to do with the drop in drug costs than any other factor. Hubby and I did not opt into Part D because my insurance has a pretty good drug plan. However, since WM started their $4 generic drug cost. We don't even use our insurance drug plan. Most generics are $4 a month. Nobody can beat that and it takes millions of people off the government dole. I half-way seriously say that the government should be run by Wal-Mart. They would do a better job at a cheaper rate. I'm waiting for them to open medical clinics with a fee for service system. Bet they will.

54 posted on 08/17/2010 8:43:48 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: STARWISE
Thanks for the additional documentation. ;*)

Did you see Post #38?

55 posted on 08/17/2010 9:46:16 PM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: impimp1
Medicare, social security, etc. are not for the greater good.

In the abstract, I agree. However, seniors are forced into Medicare whether they want it or not, a system that did not address prescription drug coverage. They also have no control over the regulatory burden placed on drug manufacturers that increase the costs of new drugs astronomically, drugs that prevent pain and suffering.

As repugnant as it is to you, you should at least acknowledge that the government has a responsibility to help people that they (that's us btw) themselves put in this situation.

The benefits of Part D far outweigh its shortcomings IMHO, and now we know it has done it responsibly and frugally.

It's certainly not something that should be used to beat GWB up with.

56 posted on 08/18/2010 4:59:38 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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President George W. Bush's Medicare prescription drug program is coming in well below its projected cost, giving hope to backers of the new health insurance law that it, too, could beat budget expectations.

One of these things is not like the other. Prescription drug prices have been affected by the enormous pricing pressure brought by Wal-Mart. But there's no Wal-Mart for medical specialties. It's medical specialties will be devastated by Obamacare.

57 posted on 08/19/2010 11:21:16 PM PDT by denydenydeny (You're not only wrong. You're wrong at the top of your voice. --Spencer Tracy, Bad Day at Black Rock)
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