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Children 'at risk from pop charts porn': Top producer Mike Stock blasts his own industry
dailymail ^ | Ben Todd

Posted on 08/11/2010 4:14:01 AM PDT by cycle of discernment

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To: cycle of discernment

“Raise you (sic) game”

I choose not to use ad hominem attacks, personal attacks, or insults as you do. I’m diminishing nothing. I’m saying, as a parent, don’t let the tv remote or internet have control, and don’t use it as an excuse.


62 posted on 08/11/2010 8:50:23 AM PDT by pops88 (geek chick over 40)
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To: pops88

Did you also control all of your child’s friends?


63 posted on 08/11/2010 8:52:52 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Notary Sojac

“It would be much easier if the government would just ban everything offensive from the airwaves, cable, and CD’s, wouldn’t it?”

Seems to me theres a middle ground between complete oppression and anarchy.


64 posted on 08/11/2010 8:56:12 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Ken H

“IOW, your answer is “Yes”. What level of government... federal? “

Of the people, for the people and by the people. It was written by the founders with the intent of a heavier emphasis on local control. Local leaders are responsive to voters and easier to send packing.


65 posted on 08/11/2010 8:58:04 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: pops88

My point is that saying “I control my children” and letting the world go to he!! is self defeating. We need to be involved in our communities and stop leaving it to the radical leftists to set the agenda.


66 posted on 08/11/2010 8:59:59 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Republic of Texas

“Did you also control all of your child’s friends?”

No, but I was there when they were around. When the neighbor kid showed up (regularly) with cans of soda pop and bags of candy, I said “no.” I also said “no” to lots of other activities they came up with. I was apparently the only parent in the neighborhood actually being a parent to their child, well, at least I was the only one that didn’t work and was home.


67 posted on 08/11/2010 9:06:33 AM PDT by pops88
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To: pops88

Your answer was “No”, and everything after the “but” was irrelevant (at least as far as this conversation is concerned). The point of the article is that that there are many things beyond the control of modern day parents, no matter how vigilant they are, and parents aren’t happy about it. It wasn’t a platform for you to tell us what a great parent you were. I’m sure you were, it just doesn’t mean a damn thing to me when it comes to protecting my child.


68 posted on 08/11/2010 9:12:38 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: driftdiver

“My point is that saying “I control my children” and letting the world go to he!! is self defeating.”

When did I say to let the world go to “he!!?” From the beginning, I’ve been trying to point out personal responsibility. Don’t blame your child’s outcome on having no control over the tv, and don’t use that as an excuse for more government intrusion. I’ve never said to be “hands off” and let the world go to “he!!”


69 posted on 08/11/2010 9:13:07 AM PDT by pops88
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To: Republic of Texas

Is turning off the tv or telling kids to go home “beyond the control of modern day parents?” It wasn’t for me.


70 posted on 08/11/2010 9:17:32 AM PDT by pops88
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To: driftdiver

I agree. I would suggest that those who disapprove of what’s portrayed on entertainment media exercise their economic clout to get it changed, rather than asking for government intervention. That’s my idea of a middle ground.


71 posted on 08/11/2010 9:21:10 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (I've been ionized, but I'm okay now.)
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To: pops88

Can you post anything without bragging? Kids hear this stuff at school, on the bus, from their friends, during “kid’s shows” and a thousand other places that you don’t control.


72 posted on 08/11/2010 9:25:33 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Republic of Texas

How am I bragging? I’m not, and I’m not trying to. The article said:

“Mothers of young children are worried because you can’t control the TV remote control.”

I’ve been saying all along- yes you can. I took responsibility as a parent and said, “no,” you can’t watch that garbage on tv, home-schooled and ended up with a decent child. I guess I should be elated for being persecuted for trying to live a Godly life in Christ.


73 posted on 08/11/2010 9:35:44 AM PDT by pops88
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To: pops88

That’s awesome. Btw, I have no problem controlling what my kids hears or sees when he’s with me. I’m just not arrogant enough to think I can control everything he hears or sees during every minute of his day.


74 posted on 08/11/2010 9:39:16 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Republic of Texas

“I’m just not arrogant enough to think I can control everything he hears or sees during every minute of his day.”

Nice slam. Did I ever say that I controlled everything my child saw or heard? I think I said that as a parent, I was there to point out good from evil, right from wrong.


75 posted on 08/11/2010 9:43:54 AM PDT by pops88
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To: Notary Sojac

“That’s my idea of a middle ground.”

Boycotts and vocal opposition are effective tools against certain corporations and media outlets. Unfortunately leaving the govt out of the picture will result in failure.

Using numerous other countries as a model we see how ignoring the legal system will eventually lead to the criminalization of opposition to the leftist agenda.

Speak out against the homosexual agenda in Canada, UK, and other parts of Europe and you can be arrested and jailed.


76 posted on 08/11/2010 9:49:59 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Republic of Texas

“Kids hear this stuff at school, on the bus, from their friends, during “kid’s shows” and a thousand other places that you don’t control.”

Again, my child was homeschooled. She didn’t learn this stuff from school, or from friends (who were screened) or from “kid’s shows” which I held the remote for. The thousand other places... well, I was “mom” 24/7 for the last 15 of her 15 years. When did “mom” or “parent” become an evil word? I feel like this article is an apologetic’s piece for working moms who feeling guilty. It’s really simple- if you’re blaming the tv, turn it off.

“places that you don’t control.”

Hmmm...what would that be? I control the car going to the grocery store, the meals I put on the table, the car going to the mall (which wild horses couldn’t drag her to)...we seem to be living in diferent worlds.


77 posted on 08/11/2010 10:14:38 AM PDT by pops88
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To: driftdiver
Obviously anyone should be able to speak out against homosexuality without fear of any government sanction. And for homosexuality, too.

The government has the ability to regulate obscenity over the airwaves via the FCC, and although I may disagree with their specific decisions I have no problem with the concept.

As far as the government getting involved with the content of cable TV, movies, music and music videos, etc.... absolutely not. Unacceptable.

78 posted on 08/11/2010 11:09:45 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (I've been ionized, but I'm okay now.)
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To: Notary Sojac

“As far as the government getting involved with the content of cable TV, movies, music and music videos, etc.... absolutely not. Unacceptable. “

Because good people are afraid or unwilling to speak out the only limitations in those arenas is for non-PC speech.


79 posted on 08/11/2010 11:24:11 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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