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Does Disgraced “Historian” Michael Bellesiles Deserve A Second Chance?
Reason ^ | August 5, 2010 | Damon W. Root

Posted on 08/05/2010 1:54:30 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 08/05/2010 1:54:37 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Of course he has a future. It includes the question “Would you like fries with that?”


2 posted on 08/05/2010 1:56:45 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: neverdem
No. Crush. Kill. Destroy.

It's what the academy does to conservatives every day.

3 posted on 08/05/2010 1:57:10 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: neverdem

In the sense that he’s free to write and sell a book on something, sure. In the sense that he’ll ever be considered a reliable authority on it, no. You don’t get that back.


4 posted on 08/05/2010 2:00:46 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: neverdem

No. He attempted to affect public policy by writing a book full of lies. And he isn’t even in Congress.


5 posted on 08/05/2010 2:01:39 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Lurker

I wouldn’t trust him in that job, either. He’s a proven liar.


6 posted on 08/05/2010 2:03:24 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Truman: The buck stops here. Obama: Buck? What buck? Did I tell you how it's all Bush's fault?)
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To: neverdem

To accord him the status of historian is the real tragedy. He was/is an unrepentant propagandist.


7 posted on 08/05/2010 2:03:36 PM PDT by kruss3 (Kruss3@gmail.com)
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To: neverdem
Common sense regarding gun ownership in this country would tell anyone this study was a crock. The number of guns manufactured, gun patents and the like are available to the public.
8 posted on 08/05/2010 2:04:08 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: neverdem

I vote NO.

It’s time for this guy to be flushed down the toilet. Then we should jiggle the handle to make sure he stays down this time.

Once a liar, always a liar.


9 posted on 08/05/2010 2:06:06 PM PDT by RickB444 (Beat your sword into plowshares, but wined up plowing the fields of someone who kept their sword.)
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To: neverdem

If he was just wrong then he may get a second chance but instead he went out of his way to sell BS as fact. He doesn’t get one from me.


10 posted on 08/05/2010 2:06:47 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: neverdem

Oh, he is much, much more than incompetent...he is agenda heavy and a liar. He HAS no future in history.


11 posted on 08/05/2010 2:10:04 PM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: neverdem
The main issue with Bellesiles is that he refuses to acknowledge that he is a liar.

He refuses to admit that he made Arming America up.

His latest book is dedicated to the patron saint of the falsely accused.

He can never be taken seriously until he admits what he did.

12 posted on 08/05/2010 2:10:04 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: neverdem

“The evidence he had presented for his groundbreaking theory was investigated first by experts from a range of disciplines and political viewpoints; then by a special symposium in a learned journal; and finally, as a result of the disturbing findings, by the professor’s university and an outside panel of scholars that it appointed. The results are now in: Bellesiles’ arguments are based on wholesale misuse of evidence and, in some cases, no evidence at all. The “invented tradition” is fact, the professor’s version a folk tale.”

Hmm, no mention of the blogosphere. For example, I remember the threads on Free Republic when the book came out. This community disected and destroyed his propaganda. In detail. With proven facts. It was beautiful!


13 posted on 08/05/2010 2:11:11 PM PDT by piytar (Those who never learned that peace and freedom are rare will be taught by reality.)
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To: neverdem

Card carrying Communist Howard Zinn was always able to get work and indoctrinate minds full of mush.


14 posted on 08/05/2010 2:13:55 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: La Lydia
He attempted to affect public policy by writing a book full of lies.


15 posted on 08/05/2010 2:15:46 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Build a man a fire; he'll be warm for a night. Set a man on fire; he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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To: neverdem
Samuel Butler: God cannot alter the past, but historians can. Bellisiles has demonstrated what his "scholarship" is, and any future works of his must be looked upon in the light of Arming America. This is the same type of academic fraud we are now seeing in the area of Mann-made global warming: cherry-picking scientific fraud taken up by the MSM because if fits their preferred narrative.
16 posted on 08/05/2010 2:17:33 PM PDT by Spartan79 (Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem.)
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To: Lurker

What’s shocking is that Emory and Columbia actually gave a rat’s behind that he lied. As a rule, coming up with the politically correct conclusion is all that matters. I don’t believe that there’s really ANY academic integrity left. There’s got to be more to why he got canned and lost his prize-he must be a Christian or something...


17 posted on 08/05/2010 2:18:04 PM PDT by Spok (Liberalism is more of a mood than a philosophy. -Robert Bork)
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To: neverdem

Not only NO, but Hell NO.

This is a guy who tried to take our RKBA away by rewriting history. Bastard.


18 posted on 08/05/2010 2:21:59 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: neverdem

Once found out, his publisher may have stopped futher runs of the hardback, but the book was still on store shelves available to miseducate for a year of two. Another publisher, Soft Skull Press, even did a paperback issue AFTER the facts of the fraud were widely known.

Amazon still has their glowing review — you can buy an electronic copy for your kindle. The lies of the left never die — they have no shame.


19 posted on 08/05/2010 2:22:19 PM PDT by KC Burke
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I’d like to think you’re right, but he’ll probably be shuffled off to another college while lefty apologists continue to quote his erroneous bullcrap.


20 posted on 08/05/2010 2:25:08 PM PDT by dbwz (DISSENT IS PATRIOTIC)
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