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Health overhaul may mean longer ER waits, crowding
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Posted on 07/02/2010 2:56:38 PM PDT by LouAvul

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Well, let's see. Higher taxes coming up. The gulf approaching being uninhabitable. Medicine in a shambles.

Is this the hope and change the Rats kept talking about?

1 posted on 07/02/2010 2:56:39 PM PDT by LouAvul
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Yes it is. Hope and Change meant Stalinization - the complete takeover of the US by government.

Look how well USSR turned out. Labor camps, eternal depression, horrid pollution, government directed reallocation of wealth, etc.

Yup, this IS what the Democrats and Obama want. Pure control.


2 posted on 07/02/2010 3:02:59 PM PDT by whitedog57
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This is so unexpected.

Seriously, a friend of mine underwent some surgery and was conciouslly awake. She didn’t feel anything, but remembered every word the doctors said.

All they talking about was Obamacare, how it was going to ruin American medicine, and what an idiot Obama was.


3 posted on 07/02/2010 3:04:50 PM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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Sorry, all they were talking about WAS Obamacare.


4 posted on 07/02/2010 3:05:32 PM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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"That might come as a surprise to those who thought getting 32 million more people covered by health insurance would ease ER crowding"

There is a word for the people that thought that - morons.

They're going to add 32 million to our health care system, yet there are just under 5,000 hospitals in the country, as of 2008 Census fugues. That's 6,400 extra people per hospital. Is that a lot? I think so.

Of course, the practical reality is that there aren't anywhere near 5,000 large metropolitan hospitals around. Most of these people are concentrated in the top 50 cities. In those cities, you're going to find a real burden placed on hospitals and hospital staff, because while we're increasing the demand, there certainly won't be any increase in supply.

5 posted on 07/02/2010 3:06:04 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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Health overhaul may mean longer ER waits, crowding

I, for one, am, SHOCKED, SHOCKED, I tell ya!

6 posted on 07/02/2010 3:07:24 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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Well, let's see. Higher taxes coming up. The gulf approaching being uninhabitable. Medicine in a shambles.

Not to mention a sieve-like border, large swaths of Arizona and many of our national parks under foreign occupation, a disastrous foreign policy, Iran heading to nuke status, Afghanistan on the fast track to a defeat for America, 4.4 million people jobless in the past year, a takeover of and massive damage to the health care system, etc. What a F*****G train wreck!!!!

7 posted on 07/02/2010 3:08:16 PM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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“UNEXPECTED”

The democrat party media is always finding “unexpected” consequences to their party’s endless evil deeds and lies.


8 posted on 07/02/2010 3:08:53 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember ("Subtlety is not going to win this fight": NJ Governor Chris Christie)
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Throw in amnesty for 15-20 million illegal aliens and you can forget seeing any doctor at all.


9 posted on 07/02/2010 3:19:33 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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Emergency rooms are filled with illegal aliens.


10 posted on 07/02/2010 3:51:37 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: I still care

as obama probably says to himself in the mirror every morning ... “ It’s good to be King “


11 posted on 07/02/2010 4:05:33 PM PDT by bajasurfer2
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My niece just took her MSAT’s as she wants to be a brain surgeon. She lives in California and agreed there are a lot of potential lobotomy patients right there in Claremont. She laughed when I suggested the procedure will become more commonly used for crowd control.


12 posted on 07/02/2010 4:06:29 PM PDT by ScoopAmma (We are led by the Resident -in Chief; aka part-time member of Webelo Troop 44)
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you know ... we’re all b*tching and complaining about how obama and congress is destroying this country , but , there’s not a damn thing we can do about it . So , i guess , let’s continue complaining .


13 posted on 07/02/2010 4:10:09 PM PDT by bajasurfer2
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My advice for your niece? Don’t go into medicine unless you love it. If you want to be paid what you’re worth for the work you do, go into some other profession.


14 posted on 07/02/2010 4:12:16 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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I’d ask you what your plan is but you admitted there is nothing we can do about it.


15 posted on 07/02/2010 4:13:39 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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Can’t even discuss it with her! Class of 2010 from Claremont McKenna with her B.A. in neuroscience. She honestly believes that the government should set her salary or in the alternative tax her at a 90% rate. I have a nephew coming out of the University of Alabama with the same mindset. Their generation has been so damaged by their “educations” that I fear for them, don’t understand them, and have little hope for them.


16 posted on 07/02/2010 4:20:20 PM PDT by ScoopAmma (We are led by the Resident -in Chief; aka part-time member of Webelo Troop 44)
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To: TigersEye

hmm ... we can “vote” but, that’ll take us back to complaining again . The possible solution : maybe what Good ol George Washington did back in 1776 ... George tried the peaceful way but it didn’t seem to work .


17 posted on 07/02/2010 4:22:20 PM PDT by bajasurfer2
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That solution is always available to us. The most likely outcome of it would be someone else’s tyranny over the rubble. If you think of anything else let me know.


18 posted on 07/02/2010 4:28:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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“She honestly believes that the government should set her salary or in the alternative tax her at a 90% rate.”

That’ll wear off.


19 posted on 07/02/2010 5:11:10 PM PDT by PLMerite (Ride to the sound of the Guns - I'll probably need help.)
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“Health overhaul may mean longer ER waits, crowding...”

No, what it will really mean is more deaths. Anything that interferes with timely, first-rate care costs lives.


20 posted on 07/02/2010 5:13:13 PM PDT by PLMerite (Ride to the sound of the Guns - I'll probably need help.)
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