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1 posted on 07/02/2010 6:15:46 AM PDT by opentalk
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as part of a procedural vote on the emergency war supplemental bill, House Democrats attached a document that “deemed as passed” a non-existent $1.12 trillion budget.


75 posted on 07/02/2010 8:37:28 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Now can we forget about that old rum-runner Joe Kennedy and his progeny of philandering drunks?)
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"Never before -- since the creation of the Congressional budget process --"

The current budget process was enacted in 1975 or 1976. She's right with respect to the House, since its enactment the House has always passed a their own Budget. Now, there have been a number of times when the House & Senate failed to get a Budget out of Conference Committee, and then had to rely on the House passing a budget resolution, just like last night.

The "deem & pass" aspect is odd as well. I think - but am not positive - that those previous budget resolution were passed on a simple floor vote.

79 posted on 07/02/2010 9:02:34 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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Never before -- since the creation of the Congressional budget process -- has the House failed to pass a budget, failed to propose a budget then deemed the non-existent budget as passed as a means to avoid a direct, recorded vote on a budget, but still allow Congress to spend taxpayer money.

The other side has effectively told us F#$% you and your rights ... POWER GRAB.

83 posted on 07/02/2010 9:14:57 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (If I don't like you, it's most likely your culture or your ideology that pissed me off.)
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This is an act of treason.


84 posted on 07/02/2010 9:15:57 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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“Never before — since the creation of the Congressional budget process — has the House failed to pass a budget, failed to propose a budget then deemed the non-existent budget as passed as a means to avoid a direct, recorded vote on a budget, but still allow Congress to spend taxpayer money.”

This reads like an enumerated grievance from the Declaration.


87 posted on 07/02/2010 9:23:43 AM PDT by DBrow
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I’m attaching a sheet of paper to my federal tax return that deems my taxes to have been paid.


91 posted on 07/02/2010 9:43:41 AM PDT by lmsii
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Are there any fire-in-the-belly, freedom-loving, patriot republicans left in Washington? No, I didn’t think so. Their silence is deafening.


93 posted on 07/02/2010 9:50:36 AM PDT by afnamvet (Patriots Rising)
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I had a little vacation this week from observing the antics of DC. It was refreshing I must say.

Upon my return today, they certainly have not not disappointed. Right out of the gate, they appear morbidly insane and completely out of control. Just another day like all the others. HO HUM.

100 posted on 07/02/2010 10:17:19 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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US Congress...could give lessons to a Roman Senate...


104 posted on 07/02/2010 10:45:30 AM PDT by mo
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I just got done talking to my Congressman's Director of Legislative Affairs and asked him where in the Constitution is the House authorized to do this.

I also told him it was shameful to attach this to a war spending bill and that it was a shame that the House didn't have the balls to put up a budget and pass it like they normally do.

I finished be telling hem that at least one of the Congressman's constituents is watching what he is doing and that I didn't like what I was seeing.

106 posted on 07/02/2010 10:53:03 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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UNBELIEVABLE!


109 posted on 07/02/2010 11:48:13 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping List-freepmail me to be included or removed. <{{{><)
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They tried to use deem and pass for the health care bill. Now they're at it again.

When a monarch deemed that a law be executed, he or she was ruling by decree.

Democrats are trying to rule by decree just like the old days when everyone had to simply obey and shut their mouths...or else.

111 posted on 07/02/2010 12:57:36 PM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenerio at a time.)
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Do I understand this correctly?

They passed a 1.1 Trillion dollar budget without a budget?

That is, did they just vote themselves the authority to fill in the blanks and spend 1.1 Trillion dollars in any way they see fit?

Someone please tell me I misunderstand what they did. Please.


112 posted on 07/02/2010 1:19:45 PM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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I deem all democrats and RINO’s removed from office. Only difference is my “deemed” item would benefit America...but both are fabrications.
117 posted on 07/02/2010 3:47:44 PM PDT by highlander_UW (The left proclaimed Obama as a Lightworker, but his work habit proclaims him to be a light worker)
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One might predict that the American people would be up in arms over this.

You will get the amount of tyranny that you are willing to tolerate.

(sounds of crickets in the distance)

Alas, Americans are sheepish drones now.

I miss real Americans, I do.


123 posted on 07/02/2010 4:45:46 PM PDT by Boucheau
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Oh, and this is the test that will determine if this is how the government will be run from now on, BTW.


124 posted on 07/02/2010 4:47:46 PM PDT by Boucheau
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Our Republic has been destroyed by Pelosi...
131 posted on 07/03/2010 4:15:47 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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A a practical matter... the American dollar is toast. Who in their right mind would do business with these crazy idiots?


132 posted on 07/03/2010 4:17:10 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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Maybe we can pick up enough seats in the next election and “deem” obama out of office.

And we could “deem” all the commie dems out, too.


134 posted on 07/03/2010 4:20:32 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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Not to diminish the extent to which the dims are sleazeballs, a "budget" is not a law. What they are discussing is that the house has not passed a budget resolution, which is the thing that tells each of the appropriations subcommittees how much money have have to divvy out in appropriations bills. This is an internal congressional issue for each house.

The existence or lack thereof of a "budget" is irrelevant, and a "deemed" budget resolution has no legal force any more than the resolution itself does.

The only thing that enables the expenditure of funds is the passage by both houses, signed into law by the president, a bill appropriating funds to be expended. Simultaneously each house must also pass an authorizing bill authorizing the departments to expend funds that are appropriated. Again each of these has to be signed into law by the president. It is a dizzyingly complex process, and this kabuki dance is gone through each year while the taxpayers are fleeced ever and every more by the inability of anyone to actually understand all of this. But it is a well scripted kabuki dance.

That they cannot even pass a budget resolution shows the level of incompetence to which they have sunk, but it is of no legal significance.

149 posted on 07/04/2010 5:52:09 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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