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Apocalypse in the Gulf: Could a Sinkhole Swallow the Deepwater Horizon Well -- And BP?
BNET ^ | June 29, 2010 | David Phillips

Posted on 06/30/2010 8:41:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Remotely operated vehicles (ROVs) are streaming video feeds of high pressure columns of oil and gas bubbling up from fissures in the sea floor — flowing from likely stress fractures in the underground piping.

Uh, remember after the passage of Obamacare, King Barry was mocking the American people by saying, "I don't see any asteroids falling out of the sky. I don't see any cracks opening up in the earth."

His mocking was oddly creepy when he did it and worse now.

41 posted on 06/30/2010 9:25:47 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Obama: "I will gladly pay you on Tuesday for a hamburger today.")
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To: mylife

You don’t need casing to plug a well via a relief well. The operative factors include being able to introduce kill mud to shut down the flow, and cenent to plug off the producing zone. That can be done in open hole or cased hole, so long as fluid can flow through the hole from bottom to top.


42 posted on 06/30/2010 9:25:52 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe; Cold Heat

We shall see.


43 posted on 06/30/2010 9:28:29 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: mylife
A much talk-about anonymous posting at The Oil Drum, a blog often frequented by petroleum engineers and other oil-industry specialists, captures the fears of many scientists and environmentalists alike:

That the system below the sea floor has serious failures of varying magnitude in the complicated chain, and it is breaking down and it will continue to.

What does this mean? It means they will never cap the gusher after the wellhead. They cannot…the more they try and restrict the oil gushing out the bop [blowout preventer]?…the more it will transfer to the leaks below. Just like a leaky garden hose with a nozzle on it.

IIRC, this area under the Gulf had a major earthquake in 2006. Wonder if that started a process of underground formation movement that made pipe failure likely.

44 posted on 06/30/2010 9:28:39 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Obama: "I will gladly pay you on Tuesday for a hamburger today.")
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To: UCANSEE2

Choppy isn’t a problem. Waves have a sounding depth of about about half their wavelength. You’d need a wave with a two mile wavelength to even stir the mud on the bottom a little.


45 posted on 06/30/2010 9:29:04 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: UCANSEE2
And there is a 5 story tall contraption of HEAVY IRON AND STEEL, tilted over at an angle, and now being banged back and forth by a CAP that probably weighs 2-5 tons, as the hurricane's outer effects are felt.

When that CAP was moving a lot earlier today, the backside RV (Enterprise : ROV 1) showed some nasty up and down motion. You could just about feel the mass from that cap smashing down into the BOP. That puppies life span is getting shorter every day. Found a WSJ article that stated seas were up to 7 feet high at the site. They probably should disconnect in seas higher then 4 feet, IMHO.

46 posted on 06/30/2010 9:29:44 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: chris37

bttt


47 posted on 06/30/2010 9:30:01 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: chris37
The total media blackout is also mystifying to me.

Yes, this is quite odd. And the media quietly going along with it is even odder.

48 posted on 06/30/2010 9:30:25 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Obama: "I will gladly pay you on Tuesday for a hamburger today.")
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To: chris37

Flames??? 5000 feet down??? Maybe from over firing dat doob dude.


49 posted on 06/30/2010 9:31:01 PM PDT by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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To: UCANSEE2
The casing is not a structural support for the BOP and like the drill pipe, it can be flexed or bent without breaking it. 12 degrees is not much as pipe goes, but it is a question, which at this point with the current plan of action, will not be a problem as they do not plan to seal it from the top until it is sealed from the bottom and the flow is totally stopped or seriously restricted by the relief well.

Then they will cut the entire BOP off the bore and fill the casing and drill pipe inside it with cement.

50 posted on 06/30/2010 9:31:11 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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He sure was stuffing his face today:


51 posted on 06/30/2010 9:31:49 PM PDT by Palladin (David Petraeus: "I don't use terms like victory or defeat.")
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To: Palladin

Well, that should impact illegal immigration, at least for a while. Yikes.


52 posted on 06/30/2010 9:32:25 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Obama: "I will gladly pay you on Tuesday for a hamburger today.")
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To: Cold Heat

Well could be killed in 14 days, they think, but company sticks to August date

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/deepwaterhorizon/7086967.html


53 posted on 06/30/2010 9:32:44 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Smokin' Joe

The boat is connected to the collection tube and the collection tube is connected to the CAP. Not moving freestanding mud. Moving a collection boat on the surface dragging a big anchor weight (CAP).


54 posted on 06/30/2010 9:32:59 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: fightinJAG

I dont know.

I heard some fellow who was big money in the business that said the casing is shot and the geology is problematic.

He concluded the relief wells will fail


55 posted on 06/30/2010 9:33:07 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Palladin

Plug the damn hole!


56 posted on 06/30/2010 9:34:26 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Smokin' Joe

It isn’t the waves disturbing the bottom.

It is the cables attached to the ships, and to the caps.

The waves are making moving the ships up and down. Unless you see a physics problem with that.

: )

Or perhaps you have another explanation for why the CAP was seen by me, and countless others, bouncing all over the top of the BOP.


57 posted on 06/30/2010 9:36:10 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And up through the ground came a bubblin crude.....Oil that is, black gold, Texas tea.


58 posted on 06/30/2010 9:38:46 PM PDT by NeverForgetBataan (Sure, you can forgive your enemies.......... But get even first)
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To: mylife
More on the geology and the 2006 earthquake HERE.

An earthquake would not have to be directly at the well site to nevertheless cause or put in motion future shifting and crumbling of the rock layers and formations under the Gulf.

59 posted on 06/30/2010 9:38:51 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Obama: "I will gladly pay you on Tuesday for a hamburger today.")
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To: dusttoyou
There are indeed natural seeps in the gulf and in many places on earth. They have been leaking for thousands of years, well before we ever drilled the first oil well on land. Well before men walked upright.(or whatever story tickles their fancy)

The coast guard is well aware of these seeps, which is are the source of most tar balls that have been washing up on gulf coast beaches well before Louisiana was a wet dream in some Frenchman's mind.

60 posted on 06/30/2010 9:40:28 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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