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Pennsylvania To Benefit Economically If U.S. Invests In Public Transit
Logistics Online ^ | June 25, 2010

Posted on 06/25/2010 3:33:50 AM PDT by Willie Green

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To: Willie Green
I ain't interested in your Chinese fortune cookies...

Mine are made on the west side of Chicago. Check the label.

61 posted on 06/25/2010 11:07:22 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Ditto
Considering that the cost of punching a tunnel 500 yards under the Allegheny is at $600 million right now and increasing every day, how much tax money will it take for a 3 mile long tunnel?

All of these projects would be a lot cheaper if they just got off their dupas and built the dang thing instead of arguing about it and dragging it out fot 10~15 years.

Those tunnel boring machines work pretty slick!
I bet they can burrow to Oakland in no time.
Those hills aren't made of granite, you know.
Probably sandstone or shale or limestone or something easier to cut through like that.
I'd say a lot cheaper than it cost to build all the other tunnels in Pittsburgh back when they used pollocks with pickaxes.
(all dollars adjusted to account for inflation of course.)

62 posted on 06/25/2010 11:56:51 AM PDT by Willie Green ("Some people march to the beat of a different drum - and some people polka. ..")
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To: Willie Green
I bet they can burrow to Oakland in no time.

Willie, it's the damn Port Authority. They could take till the next ice age to make a three minute egg. They are not about transportation, public service or efficiency. It is an organization designed solely for political patronage.

Probably sandstone or shale or limestone or something easier to cut through like that.

And probably some 19th century abandoned coal mines filled with methane and water.

63 posted on 06/25/2010 12:03:51 PM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Time to Clean House.)
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To: Ditto; martin_fierro
Willie, it's the damn Port Authority.
Holy cimoli Ditto, at whining abaht the PortaThority anat is startin to grate on my nerves. Someone needs to cut through the red tape and just poke a tube through the rock. It ain't like you aint got no miners left in the area that forgot how to do it. Just get off yer butt and get 'er done. Worry how to pay for the dam thing later.

Sheeesh.... no wonder the Pirates can't win crap anymore.

64 posted on 06/25/2010 12:49:40 PM PDT by Willie Green ("Some people march to the beat of a different drum - and some people polka. ..")
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To: Willie Green
Worry how to pay for the dam thing later.

You sound like Nancy Pelosi -- eager to spend someone elses money. We're already so far in the hole in this country that even my grandchildren won't be able to pay for it.

That stupid damn hole under the river is the biggest waste of tax money I have ever seen and there is zero potential for enough ridership to even pay for a fraction of it. Aside for the hundreds of millions being spent on it now, it will cost tens of millions a year in maintenance in the future and PAT can't afford to maintain what they already have.

You are really getting old with this choo-choo train obsession.

65 posted on 06/25/2010 1:03:18 PM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Time to Clean House.)
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To: Ditto
We're already so far in the hole in this country that even my grandchildren won't be able to pay for it.

Maybe it's time to tell that Scaife whacknut to ante up, or start taking his name off of everything.
Heck, he wasn't the one who earned the privilege to put their name on everything anyway.
Elsie Hillman too. She's been skating by for several years now, pissing money away on Andy Warhol. Hasn't done anything substantive since the Pitt library was built back in the early '70s.

66 posted on 06/25/2010 1:16:38 PM PDT by Willie Green ("Some people march to the beat of a different drum - and some people polka. ..")
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To: Willie Green
Maybe it's time to tell that Scaife whacknut to ante up, or start taking his name off of everything. Heck, he wasn't the one who earned the privilege to put their name on everything anyway. Elsie Hillman too.

WOW! Now it's bash the rich and take their money. Do you realize you are posting on FreeRepublic and not some Commie forum?

How about this? Maybe you should pay my mortgage for me and in return I'll name my house the Choo-choo Willie's Whistle Stop and put a Lyonel train in the gameroom.

67 posted on 06/25/2010 1:24:56 PM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Time to Clean House.)
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To: Ditto
Hasn't done anything substantive since the Pitt library was built back in the early '70s.

Hey! There's an idea!

Tell Elsie that instead of the T coming outta the ground next to Andy Carnegie's building, we'll deliver it right to the front door of her building... complete with the red carpet!!!

That Scaif guy might have to walk a little further, but I don't think he's gonna pony up anyway. Something wrong with that dude... he's a lot more pennypinching then the ones who came before him.

68 posted on 06/25/2010 1:25:03 PM PDT by Willie Green ("Some people march to the beat of a different drum - and some people polka. ..")
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To: Ditto
Do you realize you are posting on FreeRepublic and not some Commie forum?

Of course I do... maybe if he's lurking here, I can shame him into understanding how easy it would be for them to do it if they just cut through a little red tape.

Or don't you think that Scaife and Hillman know how to cut through the Pittsburgh red tape anymore?

69 posted on 06/25/2010 1:31:28 PM PDT by Willie Green ("Some people march to the beat of a different drum - and some people polka. ..")
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To: Willie Green
Of course I do... maybe if he's lurking here, I can shame him into understanding how easy it would be for them to do it if they just cut through a little red tape.

Willie, if they spent every last penny they have, they couldn't build the stupid system you want. To their credit, they donate significant money to causes that make a real difference, not to pie in the sky boondoggles that no one needs or wants.

70 posted on 06/25/2010 1:57:39 PM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Time to Clean House.)
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To: Willie Green
Or don't you think that Scaife and Hillman know how to cut through the Pittsburgh red tape anymore?

It ain't the 1950s and Davie Lawrence is long dead. Red Tape today is made from steel and it is designed not to be cut. It has a meter on it, and it can only be opened by putting money in the meter. That is how politicians, the public workers unions and other moochers, extortionists and rent seekers avail themselves to the public trough.

71 posted on 06/25/2010 2:08:27 PM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Time to Clean House.)
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To: Ditto
It has a meter on it, and it can only be opened by putting money in the meter.

We just need Scaife and Elsie to prime the pump...
Theresa Heinz will be in such a mad scramble to ketchup, we can stick her with the rest of the tab!!!

72 posted on 06/25/2010 2:25:10 PM PDT by Willie Green ("Some people march to the beat of a different drum - and some people polka. ..")
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To: Willie Green

Rail in the US is unbelievably underdeveloped. Amtrak only served 29 million passenger in 2008 and has 19000 employess. Deutsche Bahn served 1.9 billion passengers in 2008 and has 240000 employees! And Germany has a much smaller population than the US.


73 posted on 06/26/2010 12:04:24 PM PDT by avid (Please consider the environmental impact of not printing this posting!)
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To: avid
Rail in the US is unbelievably underdeveloped.

Well you're right... but "underdeveloped" isn't quite the right word.
Our government abandoned passenger rail in favor of highway and airline development way back in the 1950s. And the railroads shed passenger service in favor of freight just in a frantic effort to survive.
So instead of "underdeveloped", I'd say that it's suffering from disrepair and neglect. Now, some 40 years or so later, when we no longer live in an era of cheap oil, the Oil, Highway Freight Railroad and Airline Lobbies (among others), are desperately trying to prevent passenger rail systems from making a comback in the market.

74 posted on 06/26/2010 12:24:32 PM PDT by Willie Green ("Some people march to the beat of a different drum - and some people polka. ..")
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To: SatinDoll; Willie Green; Irisshlass; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; ...
SatinDoll responds to the Green Willie:
What will the government do — force people at gunpoint to ride trains? What a friggin’ waste of the taxpayer’s money!
Willie wept. Sad Willie, socialism is simply NOT a FREE REPUBLIC virtue. Not now, not never.
75 posted on 06/26/2010 8:24:39 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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