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Greece puts its islands up for sale to save economy
The Guardian ^ | 6/24/10 | Elena Moya

Posted on 06/24/2010 4:35:37 PM PDT by Mere Survival

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To: ichabod1
I fear the Greeks, even when they come bearing gifts.

You just do not know the right ones.

;)

81 posted on 06/24/2010 10:48:15 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Mere Survival

It’s just so hard to believe that this could be the fate of the USA. Pillaged by money lenders.


You mean 29% on your credit cards?

Usury rules changed so that the lenders make MORE MORE MORE?

Stop yer complaining, get back to work, make us some more money.


82 posted on 06/25/2010 12:07:48 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Mere Survival

>I can read Linear A

Linear A is tuff, take my word for it.

Linear B is much easier.


83 posted on 06/25/2010 12:10:05 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: dfwgator

Maybe Ellen and Rosie can buy the Island of Lesbos.

If they promised to go there, and take their friends, I’d donate

a lot.


84 posted on 06/25/2010 12:11:22 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: dfwgator

Maybe Ellen and Rosie can buy the Island of Lesbos.

If they promised to go there, and take their friends, I’d donate

a lot.


BTW take Kagan too


85 posted on 06/25/2010 12:11:48 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Mere Survival
Like Greece needs more problems. Now it has Arab oil billionaires knocking at its door.

This is all b/c Greeks wanted communism and got billion$ in debt. this is where america will be headed shortly.

86 posted on 06/25/2010 1:09:38 AM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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To: alecqss

Couldnt have said it better. liberals and socialists bankrupt every place there put in power.


87 posted on 06/25/2010 1:10:38 AM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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To: Mere Survival
While there at it they can give these anarchist communist nutjobs their own island too.

Maybe we should do a similar thing here. deport all liberals and socialists to one state and let them secede.

88 posted on 06/25/2010 1:13:01 AM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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To: GOPJ

Or Massachusetts. Send all the liberals to either of those states and then auction them off. Maybe Ahmadinejad is looking to buy land to test nukes on.


89 posted on 06/25/2010 1:19:06 AM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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To: x
‘It's a bit unsettling when you realize that Kaiser Wilhelm used to holiday on Corfu’

Corfu was known as Corcyra in Classical Greece. It was the place that set off the Peloponnesian War between the Athenians and the Spartans.

90 posted on 06/25/2010 1:52:20 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Good night. I expect more respect tomorrow - Danny H (RIP))
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

You mean 29% on your credit cards?

Usury rules changed so that the lenders make MORE MORE MORE?

Stop yer complaining, get back to work, make us some more money.
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Yuppers. And bankruptcy laws changed to make it harder to get out of credit card debt. After getting rid of the usury laws. And then our tax dollars going direct to these same banks in a bailout after they knowingly participate in a nationwide ponzi scheme in real estate with credit made easier and easier to obtain to keep the pool of mortgages growing.


91 posted on 06/25/2010 3:33:21 AM PDT by Mere Survival (Mere Survival: The new American Dream)
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To: irishtenor

Hahahaha That vas a gud von....


92 posted on 06/25/2010 5:08:08 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Praying for minus 24 today....at least minus 23...)
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To: Mere Survival
If Greece was REALLY serious about needing money, it would REALLY sale those islands (as in they are no longer part of Greece).

Supposedly selling something ... then charging that person property taxes ect.. is not SELLING it to them, it is renting it to them.

Just think how much money they could get for those islands if each island was really sold and the new owner allowed to create his own private nation state.

93 posted on 06/25/2010 5:43:15 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Yah, I’m against property taxes on principle. We should have the ability to choose to truly opt out, live on our own land without owing the state anything. If we choose to buy and sell and so forth, then tax, but not just for living.


94 posted on 06/25/2010 6:24:32 AM PDT by Mere Survival (Mere Survival: The new American Dream)
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To: lefty-lie-spy
Maybe they can get some accounting help from the Minoans.

How much money do Minotaurs have???

95 posted on 06/25/2010 6:57:52 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: grumpygresh
The Greeks might get even more money if buyers were able to claim independent sovereignty and set up a tax haven

Then commission up a social branding company to produce your sovereignty's flag, anthem, postage stamps and CIA factbook profile. With this, you can issue out passports, start a bank, a casino or several and apply for U.N. membership so you can have a vote and possibly sit on the Security Council.

96 posted on 06/25/2010 9:06:40 AM PDT by The Theophilus
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To: surroundedbyblue
Pay off their mountainous debt? Here’s a novel idea: kick all the freeloaders off the gov dole, cut the coporate & individual tax rate, then watch the free market grow/create jobs. You’ll have a GDP in no time. Dumbasses.

You completely nailed it. The solution is staring at them butt naked.

97 posted on 06/25/2010 6:33:34 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: Vaquero

How much money would a Minotaur have a Minotaur could mine tar?


98 posted on 06/25/2010 8:46:16 PM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: Mere Survival; All
This is news again how? The rich have been buying up private islands for years now. Nothing new, nor unusual.

Why are the rich buying island homes?

Greek Islands for Sale! Super-Rich Only Need Apply

11/11/2006 (Balkanalysis.com) ~ By Ioannis Michaletos

Greece is a country of thousands of islands, islets and rocks scattered around the Aegean archipelagos and the Ionian Sea. What most people don’t know is that plenty of those are privately owned, and that their landlords are eager to develop them with the help of real estate agents or else sell them to ultra-rich foreigners seeking reclusive resorts for their holidays. In this article some of the major islands assumed to be for sale are going to be presented.

First of all, to date it is rather hard for someone to develop a private island because of the Greek state bureaucracy and the domestic Archeological Agency, which is stringent in its examination of every case that involves an island that may have antiquities of any kind lurking under its soil. Nevertheless the fierce tourist competition of Greece with other states such as Croatia, Spain or Portugal has renewed the interest by many Greek and foreign investors, and the Greek government is not indifferent to the idea of attracting more investments from abroad. It has to be noted that the legendary Aristotle Onassis was one of the pioneers in this field, and was one of the first to acquire his own island back in the 1960’s.

The first islet to be sold was that of Drimos. British real estate developers bought this beautiful little islet, situated in the center of the Cycladic island complex. It has a surface area of 3 sqkm, and the reputed price was 4, 2 million euros. Another recent sale was the Kythro islet, located near Lefkada in the Ionian Sea. A Greek investor bought this for over 2.5 million euros, and now he has some 0.8 sqkm of private land to play with, along with some of the most pristine and inviting beaches in the Mediterranean Sea.

Now let’s take a glance at the main islands and islets that are up for grabs throughout the Greek seas currently.

1. Parapola. This little islet is located close to Spetsopoula off Spetses. Spetsopoula is privately owned by the Niarchos family and it is rather close to the Peloponnesian coast. In Parapola, the prospective buyer will acquire as well its lighthouse, dating from the late 19th century. Moreover, the waters nearby the islands are abundant in fish, and the tranquility of the place during winter represents a really once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. According to rumors the asking price for this tiny dot of land in the Greek sea is almost 10 million Euros.

2. Makri. This is situated in the Ionian Sea and has historical importance: it has been mentioned in Greek literature since Homer’s Iliad. The landscape is full of fauna and birdlife, especially during the season when migrating species are crossing from north to south. The total surface area of Makri is 1.5 sqkm.

3. Velopoula. This 2-sqkm-island is located right in the middle of the route from Piraeus to Crete, in the heart of the open Aegean. It is far away from any other island and it represents thus a sort of a piece of land in the wilderness of the sea. There are no estimates regarding the asking price for Velopoula, but it must be quite expensive, judging from the size of the island and the exclusiveness it can offer to anyone interested.

4. Echinades islet complex. These 5 islets for sale offer a total surface of 1.6 sqkm. Situated in the Ionian Sea just a few miles from the western shores of Greece, the scenery is majestic, with an abundance of wildlife and the potential for constructing a series of houses throughout the complex, for every occasion and preference. The likely price for the Echinades complex stands well above the 10 million euro mark.

5. Aspronisi. Ever wonder how it is to view Santorini’s Caldera from up-close? Well, by acquiring the Aspronisi islet the lucky owner will be just a mile from it- a view that will cost only around 9 million euros. The tiny 0.15 sqkm islet is located right across from Santorini’s bay, in between the island and the volcano. This is one of the most prestigious areas in the Aegean and one of the most profitable as well; some 500,000 tourists venture each year to charming Santorini and nearby islets.

6. Kardiotissa. Near to the southern Aegean isle of Folegandros, this small islet of just 1 sqkm surface area is up for sale. The distance from the main island is only 2 nautical miles and the environment is characterized by the typical Aegean rocky outlook. It could prove to difficult to make habitable, but should an owner invest in solar and wind energy facilities, he will be able to meet all his daily needs and at the same time be able to relax and enjoy life in a paradise setting.

7. Skyropoula. Across from Skyros island, its smaller counterpart Skyropoula is awaiting prospective buyers. With a total surface area of 4 sqkm, it offers an environment of tranquility for the international jet-set and their friends. According to recent information, the wealthy family Hajoannou from Cyprus is willing to spend some 8 million euros in order to get a hold of this island.

8. Patroklos. This small piece of land became famous a few years ago when the name of then-Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon was involved in the so-called “Greek island affairs.” Right now, the Greek family Giatrakou is willing to sell the island to real estate investors in order to create a yacht marina and a high-class resort. The island has a 4.2 sqkm surface area and is only 850 meters off the coast of Attica, not far from Athens. In case of a potential development here, there are huge earnings to be made due to its proximity to an urban centre of at least 5 million people, the most affluent of whom crave a little genuine interaction with the natural maritime Greek environment. And they will no doubt be prepared to pay dearly for it.

9. Arkoudi. Close to Lefkada in the Ionian Sea there is another island for sale. Arkoudi has a surface area of 4.5 sqkm and is strategically located between the major Ionian islands of Kefallonia, Lefcada and Ithaki. There are plans for an overall 90-million-euro investment that mainly would involve the creation of golf courses along with the appropriate tourism facilities.

10. Alatas. Finally, this beautiful islet inside the Pagasitic Bay and close to the port of Volos in central Greece has a surface area of 0.5 sqkm. The Cypriot company United Five Development wants to buy the island and proceed to an overall 50-million-euro investment over the coming years. This would include the creation of a hotel with 900 beds along with a music hall and restaurants.

The issue of selling islands and islets in Greece has received both positive and negative attention within the country. The attraction of foreign investments and the creation of jobs is a major factor that calls for the sell-out of some bits of Greek land for the good of the economy.

On the other hand, there are those who believe that long-term disadvantages concerning island-selling far outnumber temporary advantages. First of all there is the issue of regulating the true identity of those buying precious and reclusive parts of ones country’s territory. Apart from obvious reasons of the national interest, there is the very real possibility of money laundering activities being obscured behind these real estate transactions, as well as motives not easily understood at first glance.

For instance, a few months ago the Greek police uncovered the largest known international network of illegal antiquities in a remote Greek island. A large part of the ancient artifacts was hidden inside a mansion belonging to a wealthy Greek family of the international jet-set that was actually stashing treasures to be sent all across the globe. The remoteness of the island was a crucial factor for this network to nurture itself over the past 30 years virtually untouched. Such a national tragedy could easily be conducted on some of these islands currently for sale, if sold to the wrong people.

To the above concerns, one should also add the possibility of drug trafficking and weapons smuggling as among the uses of one’s own private island. The Caribbean Sea has seen plenty of instances in which drug lords used their “little paradises” to transport narcotics from South America up north, and it is worthwhile to address the simple fact that Greece is located exactly in the middle between Middle East and Western Europe. Greece also represents the getaway of the Balkans to the open sea. This ideal location for holiday-makers and potential purchasers of spectacular little islands also is a very delicate one indeed for the issue of potential international contraband violations of various sorts.

Greek Islands for Sale! Super-Rich Only Need Apply - 11/11/2006

99 posted on 06/29/2010 7:44:38 PM PDT by apro
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