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Texas GOP platform: criminalize gay marriage and ban sodomy, outlaw strip clubs and pornography
New York Daily News ^ | June 23, 2010 | Aliyah Shahid

Posted on 06/23/2010 8:37:50 AM PDT by Zakeet

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To: aSeattleConservative
The same thing goes with blasphemy laws: the civil magistrate would no more have to prosecute a man that used the Lord's name in vain after hitting his thumb with a hammer, than would a police officer have to prosecute somone going 26 MPH in a 25 MPH speed zone.

Well, answer the question, bucko:

Answer the question.
You can't, because you know that your answer will annihilate your entire argument.
There is little more intellectually pathetic than someone who won't answer a question, because he knows that by doing so, he'll lose the argument. It means that he already knows he's lost, he's just too ashamed of his own failure to admit it.

221 posted on 06/26/2010 3:14:10 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
I provided a dictionary definition of the term, Blasphemy, since you seemed to not know the definition.

So, let me ask you: Are the following teachings Blasphemy, or are they not?

Well, is that Blasphemy, or is it not?

Answer the question, brain surgeon.

(There is little more intellectually pathetic than someone who won't answer a question, because he knows that by doing so, he'll lose the argument. It means that he already knows he's lost, he's just too ashamed of his own failure to admit it.)

222 posted on 06/26/2010 3:17:24 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
What chapter and verse in the new testament specifically covers this drivel you preach?

An Old Testament citation will do:

Psalm 2:12 -- Kiss the Son, lest He be angry, and ye perish from the way, when His wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in Him.

223 posted on 06/26/2010 3:19:18 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: aSeattleConservative
So if the Kent WA couple had not raped their 4 year old daughter, and instead only posed her nude in provovative positions in front of the webcam (done in the PRIVACY of their own home of course) it would have been justifiable in your opinion?

Provided that no assault was committed upon the 4-year-old in question, then I'm not sure that I really want the job of looking through family's pictures of their children in a state of undress, to determine what's "provocative" and what's not. I think it's kinda weird, but lots of families do have pictures of their toddlers running around butt naked.

Maybe we should give the job to someone who's more interested in looking at a family's pictures of their naked toddlers. Like you, for example.

What if she were 18 years of age, would that be LESS sinful in the eyes of God?

Well, if she were 18 years old and married, do you think that her husband snapping bedroom pictures of his wife should be against the law?

We'll stipulate that such pics should not be distributed in the Public Commons, since I already agree that communities have the right to police obscenity in the public sphere.

224 posted on 06/26/2010 3:32:17 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Apparently your intolerance aims at those with conservative moral values.

The homosexual agenda is meant to change the very meaning of family and change society. It is not about two men or two women living happily ever after.

In the words of homosexual activists:

From LA Times of March 12: ...
“Divided over gay marriage” by Roy Rivenburg Paula Ettelbrick, a law professor who runs the International Gay & Lesbian Human Rights Commission, recommends legalizing a wide variety of marriage alternatives, including polyamory, or group wedlock. An example could include a lesbian couple living with a sperm-donor father, or a network of men and women who share sexual relations.
One aim, she says, is to break the stranglehold that married heterosexual couples have on health benefits and legal rights. The other goal is to “push the parameters of sex, sexuality and family, and in the process transform the very fabric of society.” ... [snip]

An excerpt from: In Their Own Words: The Homosexual Agenda:
“Homosexual activist Michelangelo Signorile, who writes periodically for The New York Times, summarizes the agenda in OUT magazine (Dec/Jan 1994):

“A middle ground might be to fight for same-sex marriage and its benefits and then, once granted, redefine the institution of marriage completely, to demand the right to marry not as a way of adhering to society’s moral codes, but rather to debunk a myth and radically alter an archaic institution... The most subversive action lesbian and gay men can undertake —and one that would perhaps benefit all of society—is to transform the notion of family entirely.”

“Its the final tool with which to dismantle all sodomy statues, get education about homosexuality and AIDS into the public schools and in short to usher in a sea change in how society views and treats us.”

Chris Crain, the editor of the Washington Blade has stated that all homosexual activists should fight for the legalization of same-sex marriage as a way of gaining passage of federal anti-discrimination laws that will provide homosexuals with federal protection for their chosen lifestyle.

Crain writes: “...any leader of any gay rights organization who is not prepared to throw the bulk of their efforts right now into the fight for marriage is squandering resources and doesn’t deserve the position.” (Washington Blade, August, 2003).

Andrew Sullivan, a homosexual activist writing in his book, Virtually Normal, says that once same-sex marriage is legalized, heterosexuals will have to develop a greater “understanding of the need for extramarital outlets between two men than between a man and a woman.”

He notes: “The truth is, homosexuals are not entirely normal; and to flatten their varied and complicated lives into a single, moralistic model is to miss what is essential and exhilarating about their otherness.” (Sullivan, Virtually Normal, pp. 202-203)

Paula Ettelbrick, a law professor and homosexual activist has said:
“Being queer is more than setting up house, sleeping with a person of the same gender, and seeking state approval for doing so. . Being queer means pushing the parameters of sex, sexuality, and family; and in the process, transforming the very fabric of society. . We must keep our eyes on the goals of providing true alternatives to marriage and of radically reordering society’s view of reality.” (partially quoted in “Beyond Gay Marriage,”

Stanley Kurtz, The Weekly Standard, August 4, 2003)
Evan Wolfson has stated:

“Isn’t having the law pretend that there is only one family model that works (let alone exists) a lie? . marriage is not just about procreation-indeed is not necessarily about procreation at all. “(quoted in “What Marriage Is For,” by Maggie Gallagher, The Weekly Standard, August 11, 2003)

Mitchel Raphael, editor of the Canadian homosexual magazine Fab, says:

“Ambiguity is a good word for the feeling among gays about marriage. I’d be for marriage if I thought gay people would challenge and change the institution and not buy into the traditional meaning of ‘till death do us part’ and monogamy forever. We should be Oscar Wildes and not like everyone else watching the play.” (quoted in “Now Free To Marry, Canada’s Gays Say, ‘Do I?’” by Clifford Krauss, The New York Times, August 31, 2003)

1972 Gay Rights Platform Demands: “Repeal of all legislative provisions that restrict the sex or number of persons entering into a marriage unit.”

[Also among the demands was the elimination of all age of consent laws.]


225 posted on 06/26/2010 3:32:52 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Christian_Capitalist

No, an out of context OT citation from Psalms will not do..


226 posted on 06/26/2010 3:38:51 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: Christian_Capitalist; metmom

CC needs a freaking beatdown.

CC, you said that there is no difference between parents taking provocation photos of their naked little children, and innocent photos.

This proves without any doubt that you are a sick pervert.


227 posted on 06/26/2010 3:40:23 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Christian_Capitalist; metmom

Should have read:

CC needs a freaking beatdown.

CC, you said that there is no difference between parents taking PROVOCATIVE photos of their naked little children, and innocent photos.

This proves without any doubt that you are a sick pervert.


228 posted on 06/26/2010 3:41:39 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah
CC, you said that there is no difference between parents taking provocation photos of their naked little children, and innocent photos. This proves without any doubt that you are a sick pervert.

I said no such thing. (You're LYING again, of course)

I said that provided parents are not distributing naked pictures of their toddlers in the Public Commons, I do not want the job of Trespassing upon their Private Property and looking through their private family pictures to determine what I think is "provocative", and what's not.

Do YOU want to do so?

229 posted on 06/26/2010 3:45:41 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
No, an out of context OT citation from Psalms will not do..

Christ inspired the Psalms. They're His words.

230 posted on 06/26/2010 3:46:24 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
Now answer the question:

Are the following teachings Blasphemy, or are they not?

Well, is that Blasphemy, or is it not?

Answer the question, brain surgeon.

(There is little more intellectually pathetic than someone who won't answer a question, because he knows that by doing so, he'll lose the argument. It means that he already knows he's lost, he's just too ashamed of his own failure to admit it.)

231 posted on 06/26/2010 3:47:43 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: little jeremiah
CC needs a freaking beatdown.

Have your fun. I'm going to work.

232 posted on 06/26/2010 3:48:28 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
Christ inspired the Psalms. They're His words.

I read the verse you cited, and at no point did it cover "blasphemy"

I’ll ask you again..

What chapter and verse in the new testament specifically covers this drivel you preach? Please show us where Christ himself or any of his disciples or the new testament saints said specifically that its “blasphemy” for Jews to deny the divinity of Christ.

233 posted on 06/26/2010 3:56:03 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
The Bible does not include the word "Trinity" either, bub.

But you can read it for yourself, and see that it's in there.

Ergo:



Now, Mrs. C_C is presently carrying our child in her womb, and I consider it much more MY job to protect and care for that baby, than I trust the Government to do so. So now I really do have to go to work.

234 posted on 06/26/2010 4:02:21 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Just what I figured, no scripture to prove your point, LOL


235 posted on 06/26/2010 4:11:45 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: Christian_Capitalist; aSeattleConservative

Maybe we should give the job to someone who’s more interested in looking at a family’s pictures of their naked toddlers. Like you, for example.


CC, you are an offensive piece of excrement. You’re using the homosexual agenda talking point - if someone is concerned about immorality, they are secretly attracted to doing that thing. BS to the max and you have revealed what kind of knave you are, for all the world to see.


236 posted on 06/26/2010 4:15:27 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

I wonder what the piece of dung’s previous screen name was.

He’s doing this all for his own jollies, that’s obvious. He’s slimey. too.

(Apologies to good honest dung out there.)


237 posted on 06/26/2010 4:18:45 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah
Look at his posting history, he was on a Ron Paul thread trying to browbeat Jews and Christians with his alinsky tactics..

He's just a sodomite friendly dung beatle doing what sodomite friendly dubg beatles do best..

238 posted on 06/26/2010 4:29:45 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

I agree.

He thinks he is a wit but he’s only half right.


239 posted on 06/26/2010 4:33:31 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
Couldn't wait till I got back from work, could you?

Well good news -- the wife and I need to switch cars, so I'm here for awhile longer.

Just what I figured, no scripture to prove your point, LOL

Psalms 2:12. If you don't like it, take it up with the Fathers of the Church, who recognized the Old Testament as being every bit as Divinely-inspired as the New.

Now, you should be able to answer the following question without a specific Scriptural reference:

Just answer the question: Is that Blasphemy, or is it not? YES, or NO??

240 posted on 06/26/2010 4:56:33 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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