Posted on 06/23/2010 7:32:21 AM PDT by Kaslin
Does a separation, as opposed to a divorce, still preserve spousal privilege?
Al will magnanimously let Tipper have all the carbon credits.... and he’ll keep the 50,000 Apple shares for himself.
Out of Jail (Waylon Jennings)
I sat at a bar having a beer
Trying to hold down the stool
When a stranger walked in stood there beside me
And plopped down there like a fool.
He started drinking then he started talking
About things that were wrong in his life
The more that I heard the more I believed
The thing that was wrong was his wife.
You talk about beauty when we first met
She was all a man could desire
Talk about love one night with her
Would set your very soul on fire.
But loves little flame is out of control
About three feet high from behind
Ever since we've been married well, I've come to believe
That love's for the dumb and the blind.
'Cause you talk about ugly when she gets mad
She goes from Jekill to Hyde
She grits her teeth and her eyes roll back
And pivot from side to side.
She completely rewrites the whole English language
Descriptive four lettered and loud
Now I can't out think her but I can sure out drink her
And that's what I'm doing here now.
I've spent seven years with the wrong woman
Seven and going on eight
She spent seven years naggin' and eatin'
I'm overwrought and she's overweight.
If I try leavin' she has me arrested
And takes her own sweet time gettin' me out
If she ain't number one she's in the top two
Of things that I could live without.
Men commit murder and all kinds of mayhem
In a few years they're back on the streets
Highway robbery and white collar crime
And they laugh at the system they beat.
Sometimes I'm tempted sometimes I'm ashamed
Of the things that the law will allow
I could have killed her when I first met her
And I'd have been out of jail by now.
I could have killed her when we first met
And I've have been out of jail by now...
Or that until the global warming hoax hit the fan, Tipper happily played Bonnie to Algore's Clyde...
“this is a very interesting and encouraging number, if accurate.”
It’s accurate but incomplete. It implies that only 30% of marriages end in divorce, but that is a MINIMUM number for the following reasons:
a) The statistic accounts for all marriages of adults alive at the time of the survey, including those of people who got married during generations in which divorce was not common. If divorce rates are rising (e.g., Baby Boomers vs. the Greatest Generation), then inclusion of these earlier marriages will make the divorce rate lower than it otherwise would be.
b) The statistics also account for very new marriages—i.e., those which haven’t lasted long enough to get divorced (under normal circumstances). Thus, the denominator includes a bunch of marriages that may yet end up in divorce, but since they haven’t happened yet, they don’t yet appear in the numerator. Again, this artificially depresses the divorce rate.
The 50% divorce rate IS a bogus statistic derived by tallying divorces in year X vs. marriages in year X. But with the Boomer bubble moving through the population, this artificially raises the number of divorces in year X compared to marriages that year simply because the total number of Boomers is bigger than the number of Millenials etc. So even if the divorce rate were constant across generations, this would make the cross-sectional divorce rate go up.
Thus, it’s fair to say the true divorce rate lies between 30% and 50%, but until someone tracks divorces by cohort (year of marriage), it’s difficult to say what the true rate is or whether it is genuinely rising or falling.
For a new marriage in 2010, the chances of divorce could be at either end of this wide range, so the most anyone can do is behave in a way that minimizes this risk. Just because X% of one’s own generation dies in auto accidents, for example, does not predestine you to the same risk. It all depends on how YOU drive etc.
I think it IS impossible if one of the partners is an insufferable bore who writes annoying poems and recites them in low, dramatic voice .... suggesting that he is probably out of his frigg'n mind.
Found some figures: http://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/marital-hist/2004/Table1.2004.xls
1. At any given age, divorce rates for women are higher than for men (I did not know that, nor would I have predicted it).
2. For men, highest divorce rates appear to be the first round of Baby Boomers (born 1945-1949): 40.5% of marriages in this group had ended in divorce by age 50 (compared to only 30.6% for those born 1935-1939).
3. For women, highest divorce rates appear to be among those born 1950-1954, 43.7% of which had divorced by age 50 (compared to 30.2% for women born 1935-1939).
4. Subsequent generations hadn’t lived to age 50 by 2004, when these statistics were compiled, so we can only infer trends based on earlier ages. For men and for women, divorce rates appear to have declined in subsequent generations: for men born 1965-1969, only 23.8% of marriages ended in divorce by age 35 vs. 28.7% for men born 1945-1949. Parallel figures for women are 28.7% vs. 33.1% for those born 1950-1954.
Unfortunately, statistics end at age 50. So the most we can say is that the lifetime divorce rate among those born 1935-1939 will be AT LEAST 30% for men and women (since that’s the fraction of marriages with divorces by age 50). For the generation that apparently has the highest divorce rate, the lifetime divorce rate will be AT LEAST 40% for men and 43.7% for women for the same reason.
In short, it may well be that once all is said and done, half of those Baby Boomer marriages will end in divorce, but it appears that for subsequent generations, the rate probably will be lower, but only by a few percentage points.
Please don’t shoot the messenger.
“1. At any given age, divorce rates for women are higher than for men (I did not know that, nor would I have predicted it).’
Average age of marriage for women is younger. This is why.
“Average age of marriage for women is younger. This is why.”
Wow! I just looked at the statistics and you are so right. Even for the most recent generations shown there’s a double-digit difference in the fraction of women married by age 20 compared to men. In the context of so many more teen marriages, the fact that womens’ divorce rates are only slightly higher than men suggests that women probably have a lower divorce rate if we were to match men and women by the age they got married. That better fits my intuition about the gender difference in divorce rates.
ping to parts of article not about gore & tipper
But algore’s way would certainly be less “taxing” for her.....just enjoy herself and wait for the monthly check in the mail.”
My advice: Tipper: Get all you can up front. Those monthly checks stop the minute Al DIES.
He is already way overweight & a walking fatal heart attack. My bet is that Al Gore goes out the same way that Nelson Rockefeller did—having sex. How old is the woman Al is supposedly hooked up with? Old men trying to prove their virility multiple times a day to a younger woman!! Good luck with that!
Those monthly checks will look good in the beginning, but I am willing to bet that Tipper outlives Al by a number of years. Get all you can up front...along with monthly checks that will end.
I told my wife sometime in our first year, "I may kill you, but I will never divorce you."
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